Both are 15lb

Response had had the thumb plugged 1x to shorten span has grips and a thumb insert, span is 4 1/2 cut to cut great condition - 65.00 shipped

N'Tense is a sigle drill grips and thumb insert 4 1/2 cut to cut - 70.00 shipped

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In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress.

John Adams