it's a buddy's ball. he's got some big hands and throws it pretty hard but it just hooks waaay too much for him. i throw 14# stuff or i would redrill it for me. i think it would be perfect for me because i have medium rev and speed but since i've had 4 shoulder surgeries i've put my 15's on the back burner. if i don't sell it i may move the thumb if i move back up to 15's. right now i have a solid uranium, intense inferno, and a shooter xl as my 15#ers. but the wmb would be a great addition. can you tell it's been awhile since i've thrown 15# LOL.