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BallsDeep

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Awesome Flip
« on: March 04, 2006, 10:57:57 AM »
I've seen the product page, and I'll get it regardless, but does anyone know whether it has the exact same cover as the S&A.  I know it says pearl performance reactive, just like the S&A, but the listed name of the cover on the TS&A and TA was the same, yet there were tweeks.  Could the AF be a tweek of the cover used on the S&A, or could it be even more, perhaps using the Activator Advance as its base as opposed to the Activator +.
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Re: Awesome Flip
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2006, 07:54:19 PM »
bowlingball.com has the FLIP at 195 on their 'perfect scale' and the S&D is only 162.  That is a lot flippier
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BallsDeep

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Re: Awesome Flip
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2006, 08:37:28 PM »
First of all the scale does not measure filp, it measures "hook potential".  I don't mean to berrate you with commentary on how terrible that scale is, but just for informative purposes I will state some problems with the scale.  First off the scale measures hook potential, a relative term.  Hook potential differs vastly on different surfaces with different volumes of oil.  A Sahara can out hook a Total Shock and Awe if the lanes are a bit toasty, as the TS&A will burn up.  Hook in oil/hook in dry are better terms, they still aren't exact, but at least they address the lane condition.  
  Secondly, it seems as though they are ignorant to basic ball dynamics.  It is rather obvious that they do not take into account the differences in symmetrical/asymetrical core technology.  Assuming they are refering to hook in oil it is safe to say that there are major errors.  I will guarantee that the TS&A will out hook any Big B ball, any storm piece, or pretty much anything (hold a SCB or a rule GP2, and maybe a few others) on the market on a long, heavily oiled pattern with a drilling that offers maximum flare/early hook.  Yet the TS&A is lower than many balls on the scale.
*bad joke alert*  The scale is actually the imperfect scale
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StormRoto

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Re: Awesome Flip
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2006, 09:23:37 PM »
I received my 3 Awesome Flip's today and plan on drilling them up tomorrow when Mo calls with what layouts he wants me to use.  I will give a report when I get a chance to thow them.

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Re: Awesome Flip
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2006, 08:16:47 AM »
quote:
First of all the scale does not measure filp, it measures "hook potential".  I don't mean to berrate you with commentary on how terrible that scale is, but just for informative purposes I will state some problems with the scale.  First off the scale measures hook potential, a relative term.  Hook potential differs vastly on different surfaces with different volumes of oil.  A Sahara can out hook a Total Shock and Awe if the lanes are a bit toasty, as the TS&A will burn up.  Hook in oil/hook in dry are better terms, they still aren't exact, but at least they address the lane condition.  
  Secondly, it seems as though they are ignorant to basic ball dynamics.  It is rather obvious that they do not take into account the differences in symmetrical/asymetrical core technology.  Assuming they are refering to hook in oil it is safe to say that there are major errors.  I will guarantee that the TS&A will out hook any Big B ball, any storm piece, or pretty much anything (hold a SCB or a rule GP2, and maybe a few others) on the market on a long, heavily oiled pattern with a drilling that offers maximum flare/early hook.  Yet the TS&A is lower than many balls on the scale.
*bad joke alert*  The scale is actually the imperfect scale
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Not a GP2, I had 2 of them and they were both turds in heavy oil compared to a TSA or my current S&D.

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Re: Awesome Flip
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2006, 08:32:54 AM »
We will be receiving ours here at the shop the last week in March near the 30th. Also I heard rumor that Mo himself will be here on the 10th of April not sure if he is doing his usual instruction with all bowlers who sign up or if he is just here to work with Scott (maybe me too if I get out of work). can get more info on that later. From what I here though, the core is shaped the same as the Seek and Destroy only the densities are tweaked, and the cover is the performance pearl, same as the Shock and Awe (Activator + if I remember correctly).

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BallsDeep

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Re: Awesome Flip
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2006, 04:55:11 PM »
I don't know, I've never thrown a gp2, but whenever there is a "flood ball" thread, it always comes up.
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