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Bjaardker

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WMB in the carrydown.
« on: January 03, 2006, 09:01:45 AM »
Man alive do I love my WMB when the carrydown gets nasty.

Last night I was practicing a bit on some lanes that had plastic being thrown on them for the last 2 days (open bowl).

Nothing would carry, I was playing the 2 board with a little success, but the over under was bad & if you piped it hard it wouldn't come back.

So I pulled out the WMB, went to the middle of the lane, stood just 1 board left of center & threw 2 boards right of 3rd arrow. Nice & slow.

Man does that ball have a motor. It reads the lane through nearly everything if you give it time. Bottom line, it didn't matter how ugly the carrydown was, if I slowed it down & gave the ball time to get that motor running, it was going to move.

So, if you're having trouble getting a read on slick lanes with carrydown, give the WMB a try. Just remember to keep it slow. I'm talking about almost fluffing it. It gets into a roll & just plain works.

What other conditions have you had luck with the WMB in?

 

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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2006, 06:29:14 AM »
Bj,
It's great on a fresh shot too...medium, medium heavy......

how's your drilled?
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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2006, 09:10:03 AM »
I had lots of trouble with it on fresh shots.

It always seemed that coming off the outside when going up the boards it would burn up or cross over.

If I got deep, it wasn't strong enough off of the dry to come back. My inferno covered many more boards & tended to be more predictable

Knowing what I know now I will have to try it deep & slow it down a lot more so it gets into a roll.

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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2006, 11:10:04 AM »
I haven't got the chance to use mine much in carrydown.  I like it on fresh shots where you need to control the backend.  My last two tournaments (PBA Chameleon and Masters patterns), the WMB was my ball of choice.  The WMB matched up the best for me on the Chameleon pattern.  On the Masters shot, I could get to the pocket with several balls.  The WMB kept me there longer and kept me out of trouble.
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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2006, 11:21:18 AM »
Strider ....strong and predictable!  all there is to it!

I'd LOVE to see a WMB w/ a control drill on it!!
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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2006, 12:40:31 PM »
Maybe if Eric Forkel shows up the the Gathering, I'll be able to "steal" another one from him and try it.  
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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2006, 05:31:16 PM »
i am sure this will never happen ,but what i would really like is to bowl on one of these shots with carry down and heavy oil with at least one of u guys that claim to love this ball in heavy oil and carry down so maybe then i will stop downing it so ,cause i cant use it on anything i bowled with it last nigth med oil used pair and i had to play gutter to 10 for it to hold (righty) bowled with it sunday on a house shot and i coudlnt play deep ,it wouldnt recover and i couldnt play tight broke in high and this was a wet dry shot dry being outside of 10 the ball came out of the oil to the dry and went for the 10 pin
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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2006, 07:49:13 PM »
Toomanytenpins, if you ever get up to the Milwaukee/Madison area let me know & I would love to bowl with you to show you what I've been doing with the WMB.

Mind you, when I said slow down I really meant SLOW. I'm guessing 13-14 MPH a good 2-3 MPH slower than I normally throw.

It might also have something to do with your lower track. I would think that a low track might take a bit of the power out of the action of the core, that's just speculation though.

There are times though when it gets really wet & I end up putting the WMB away & pulling out my Solid Blue Carbide Lane#1 (scuffed to 400).

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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2006, 08:12:34 PM »
I don't know what to tell you toomanytenpins.  I think the WMB is one of the most versatile pieces I own.  I shot 300 with it on a house shot.  I used it at the last Ballreviews gathering.  The shot on all the different patterns dried out a lot, but the WMB was coming off my hand the best (a lot of swelling that day for some reason), and I was able to use it successively.  My ball of choice for the PBA pattern tournaments I've been at lately (typically much more oil than a THS) has been the WMB.  Same surface prep on all of them (800 grit + Doc's Elixir).  I still haven't hit much carrydown, but my guess is that it would handle it better than most balls.

Your profile says medium speed, low revs.  Ron Clifton threw my ball and he is rev dominant.  The ball looked terrible in his hands.  Rolled out badly in the midlane.  Since you are speed dominant, I would think you'd have good luck with yours unless you are strongly speed dominant.  How is yours layed out, is/was your driller very familiar with Mo's cores and your game, what is the surface...?
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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2006, 10:02:20 PM »
my wmb is oob 500 grit and my normal speed is about 13 mph on a good day i am not really sure of the layout i have had it redrilled 3 times,but u know something, i was bowling with it yeasterday on a less than fresh shot ,but there was oil; and what i ended up doing was standing to the left gutter boundary getting the ball right as far as i could with less speed and more lift and that actually worked it was odd but if i missed inside ,thru the nose it went but u r right lower speed gave it time to work and increased the carry i think i am 5 " from pap on my drilling ball is in my truck and its cold outside
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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2006, 11:05:45 PM »
500 grit and 13 mph is a serious recipe for roll out.  You may have the wrong expectations about this ball.  I find that it is not a big board coverer.  If I want to stand left and throw right, the WMB would be far down my list of choices.  It wants to rev and roll, not skid and flip.  Also, you should never keep balls out in the cold.  That will accelerate cracking possibilities.  If you've had it drilled 3 times and you're not sure what it is, my guess is that your driller isn't that familiar with Mo's cores or didn't take your physical game into account.  An optimized drilling makes a big impact on strong asymmetric balls.
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Re: WMB in the carrydown.
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2006, 05:54:57 AM »
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500 grit and 13 mph is a serious recipe for roll out.  You may have the wrong expectations about this ball.  I find that it is not a big board coverer.  If I want to stand left and throw right, the WMB would be far down my list of choices.  It wants to rev and roll, not skid and flip.  Also, you should never keep balls out in the cold.  That will accelerate cracking possibilities.  If you've had it drilled 3 times and you're not sure what it is, my guess is that your driller isn't that familiar with Mo's cores or didn't take your physical game into account.  An optimized drilling makes a big impact on strong asymmetric balls.
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