Author Topic: I need honest..... (Read 6696 times)

Greg T · « **on:** October 06, 2007, 03:40:06 PM »

opinions on the longevity of the MoRich coverstock. I'm looking at the LevRG and wanted to know about reaction loss, coverstock death etc.

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Slopsurprise · « **Reply #31 on:** October 11, 2007, 09:03:42 AM »

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Nope. The first thing I've thrown other than Ebo is the Beat'N I just threw last night. Awesome ball, but now I am in need of something with a tad more length to compliment that. I'm looking into all options at this point.

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Storm has been known for a bit more length than usual and more pop on the backend. Overall, their balls turn left harder than most other companies stuff. That is just their personality. When I look for a ball, to open up the backends, to recover, and to turn left hard, I go to storm. When I look for control and not cover a ton of boards, I like Morich. They are really like polar opposites in reaction. Seriously, try out a Storm. It sounds like it could work for what you want.

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Greg T · « **Reply #32 on:** October 11, 2007, 09:24:30 AM »

The last Storm I used was when the Eraser was first released. Worked okay for a short time, but we were on a flood at that time and the ball died really quickly. I heated it, but that was at the very biginning of oil extraction and the oven was much too dry and didnt really work well. I have not used Storm since then. I was using Ebo.

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kleptic · « **Reply #33 on:** October 11, 2007, 09:34:17 AM »

I want to see a video of these dead balls, I have a hard time believing a ball died within 25 games even if you never cleaned it. do you alway try to play way inside and these balls wont make the turn or what's the deal. I've put so many games on every ball I've owned and even before I knew how to care for a ball they lasted a long time.

Greg T · « **Reply #34 on:** October 11, 2007, 09:53:02 AM »

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I want to see a video of these dead balls, I have a hard time believing a ball died within 25 games even if you never cleaned it. do you alway try to play way inside and these balls wont make the turn or what's the deal. I've put so many games on every ball I've owned and even before I knew how to care for a ball they lasted a long time.

My comfort zone is about 15 to 5. I can always find a shot somewhere near, being the 17 board or even the 12, there is always something that works well. On occasion I can pull deep inside and play 20 or 25 to 8 or 5 and make a good shot. When I drilled up my One, Big One, TNV, etc. I was always able to play the deep as well as the 12 board. After 20 to 30 games AND METICULOUS CLEANING between shots and after every set, the ball will not recover from anywhere but a common track shot, maybe around the 8 or 10 board. If I attempt to play deep with a 30 game ball I have a 50/50 chance of ditching it or maybe hitting the 3/6 pocket. All the oil extraction and resurfacing in the world will not bring it back. If I get some time during the week and can possible find a fresh lane I will make a vid of two TNVs. One from the beginning of last year and one bought new just for the roll-offs. They're both dead. I can play them up the twig and they will SLOWLY move toward the pocket. Very similar to plastic.

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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #35 on:** October 11, 2007, 10:02:49 AM »

Even not cleaning my equipment regularly, I never had problems with balls just dying like you seem to, Greg T. Yeah, I'd have balls lose maybe two or three boards of hook after a full season of use, but never absolutely die and go nearly straight like a plastic ball. I don't know if it has anything to do with your rev rate being higher than mine or what (mine's only around 250 or so). My Total NV still can hook a ton and pick off the 7 pin if I tried to roll it slow up the twig! I recently gave away The One to one of my dad's friends because it was such a hit-or-miss ball for me (very condition specific), but it still hooked just as well for me after 100 games as it did on day 1.

For what it's worth, I haven't had problems with Storm balls dying on me recently. I thought my Special Agent was losing some hit after TONS of games in my PBA league over the summer on long oil, so I took it down to 500, then worked it back up to 2000, threw a couple games, and hit it with some Clean & Dull on a spinner. It rolled like brand new! I even got to use it for the first time in awhile the other night because the backends were tighter than usual and my pearl/pearl particle equipment wasn't taking out the 10 pin. Until the heads dried up and I couldn't keep it off the headpin without swinging it to the gutter and giving up entry angle, it was smacking pins around like crazy.

Xfest · « **Reply #36 on:** October 11, 2007, 10:14:21 AM »

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Greg,

Bottom line, MoRich covers are/were made by Brunswick and Columbia; they are no better or worse than Ebonite covers. Some Ebo may absorb at a higher rate than other manufacturers.

In today's environment, all balls MUST be cleaned IMMEDIATELY after use and before putting them back into the bag. That is the only way they will last. All will need some kind of treatment in the 50 - 250 game range, depending on many factors: dullness of surface, amount of oil bowled upon, rev rate, roughness of the lane surface, etc.

I'd venture a guess that most balls can last 500 - 1500 games, if properly cared for.

I agree with several others here that Visionary and Lanemasters are the standouts, the longest lasting and most durable with the least care necessary, but they still need to be cared for.

Cmoore,

I am sorry you had a problem with your Haus machine. I can change the surface on any Lanemasters/Legends balls with my home spinner with sandpaper, Abralon or if necessary, Trizact pads. The hardest to do so far was the Masterpiece, a resin pearl; I needed to use Trizact on it to get a ball reaction change. Most times, I have found that polish or sandpaper make significant changes to the ball's reaction.

Sorry also that you were not able to use Lanemasters balls to keep your avg. at 234; I guess you needed the backend help from the MoRich cores to do that. I wish I could average 230. Congratulations. That's impressive anywhere.

MoRich may be King for you, just not for everyone.
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shelley · « **Reply #37 on:** October 11, 2007, 10:49:40 AM »

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Why do you care so much about L/LM balls to like try and persuade everybody.. All ball companies have good balls you know..

Because it costs me $200 to throw a Lanemasters ball for several years while it would cost me (or Greg) $1000+ to throw an Ebonite ball for that long, having had to replace it a half-dozen times.

All ball companies have good balls. You're right. They all put out stuff that reacts well and hits hard (on the right conditions, with the right surface,...). Not all ball companies put out long-lasting equipment that is versatile, easy to care for, and durable. If you want to choose two out of "long lasting", "lots of hit", and "good reaction" go ahead. I can choose all three by picking Lanemasters.

SH

Greg T · « **Reply #38 on:** October 11, 2007, 11:10:31 AM »

I was looing into a Legends Black Pearl, but think I'm going to try a 900 Global Break.

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