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Shoutout33

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Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« on: January 03, 2004, 12:01:58 AM »
I've been to the website numerous times and I've even called in a few times too. I need a ball in MoRich's line to start off how I'd set up everthing else. The one ball that's struck my curiosity (especially since I STILL can get it...) is the Lambyrinth. I've hear excellent things about this ball and I'd like to get it first but the are some concerns.

First off, I plan to get one companies equipment so it'll be easier for me to keep up with stuff. Second, the Lambyrinth is said to read the "mid-lane" well. What exactly does this mean? When I went to the MoRich website, in it's comparison chart, it shows the Lambyrinth to be a light oil ball now verses the other equipment. I found more verfication of this under the resurfacing page too. It said that the Lambyrinth used to be categorized as a strong ball in its debut, but has since been replaeced with much stronger balls like the Supreme Colossus.

So I was thinking that if started off with this ball (based on the chart that MoRich has on it's website...), I could probably use it as a good light to medium light oil ball. From there, the Pioneer would be for light oil to dry, and the Colossus Pearl could be a med. oil or "tweener" ball, then I'd have the Colossus (which seems like it's hard as hell to find...) for med. to med heavy and then have the Supreme for soup. Well, at least this is my theory.

So, if you guys don't mind, could give me some feedback? Thanks.
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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2004, 03:22:52 PM »
Shoutout33 - Why don't you fill out the form for "drilling requests" on the forms page of their website.  They will take into account all the parameters of your bowling style and lane conditions and will often times get back to you in a few days.
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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2004, 09:10:22 PM »
Shout,

Unless you have a very high ball speed (> 20 mph) or very low revs, like 3 or 4 to the pocket or someone royally screws up the drilling, there's no way on heaven or earth anyone would ever consider the Labyrinth to be remotely usable on light or even medium light oil. Maybe with a gloss polish.

I had one and loved it for medium to medium-heavy oil. It starts its lane grabbing in the midlane which enables it to have a continuous arc in the backend. The only problem is you must keep the Columbia TEC-like cover clean. I'd strongly suggest using Doc's Elixir.

The Pioneer is Morich's light to medium-light oil ball.

The Onslaught can be with a control drilling and some polish.
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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2004, 09:11:59 PM »
Like Shermdog stated go with the Hercules as a benchmark ball, it will also read the mids well and cover prep is a breeze because of the Versa Tech.

If you want to fill up on Morich for an arsenal then I'd worry about those other balls later.
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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2004, 08:32:26 AM »
Hey all! Thanks so much for the replies! Ok, mabey I didn't give specifics as to why I'm going with older equipment. I can get some of MoRich discontinued products for a really, really good price from a pro shop in my area. All regular stuff, Hercules included, is reg. price. So, let me try this again, if I wanted to use their OLD stuff what would be a good ball to start with. I'm on a budget here people. Sorry I didn't explain this the first time around. So even if I got the Lambyrinth first I could still use it for med to med hev. oil conditions and the Pioneer for lighter oil to dry...right? Ok, I can deal with that. Now, what about the reg. and pearl Colossus. Would the pearl fit between the Lambyrinth and the Pioneer and does the reg. Colossus overlap the Lambyrinth? Thanks again people. Oh yeah, could someone please answer my mid lane question...thanks.
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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2004, 09:10:32 AM »
If left in box condition and drilled similarly, the Pioneer should fit below the Colossus Pearl, which should hook a little bit earlier and a little bit more and handle a little bit more oil. The Pioneer may have more "apparent" backendthan the CP.

The Colossus Pearl should fit below the
Labyrinth.
The Labyrinth will handle more oil, will hook earlier and handle more oil than the Colossus Pearl.

Whether or not your Labyrinth will handle medium-heavy, as mine did, will depend on your delivery and speed. Guessing from your profile, it's hard to say. I would guess - medium. I think I have more revs than you do.

These balls should still consitute a decent arsenal for you. The Hercules, Mayhem and Colossus (Supreme) should be good potential choices for medium-heavy and heavier oil.

BTW since the CP and the Laby are all well discontinued, may I ask where are you getting them from?

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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2004, 10:20:53 PM »
Hey Charlest, thanks so much for the clarification! I had some more questions if you don't mind. If I could find the reg. Colossus, that would replace the Laby right?

Also, I've been looking at the "control" drilling specs for their balls. Does this drill pattern, depending on which ball your using for its specific lane condition, make the ball have a controlled strong rolling hook to the pocket. I like to send the ball long, set up, and roll HARD into the pocket!

My confort zone is playing between 10-15 and I love to play in the oil if the shot is there! Don't get me wrong, I know how to adjust, I'm just letting you know what I like so you can get an idea of how I throw. If I can find the reg. Colossus, I'd get that instead of the Lamby, I just don't know if I can get from my proshop here. Oh yeah, to answer your question, the name of the pro shop is Nelson's Trophy/Pro Shop. The gentleman I'd be going through is Gary "The Guru" Parson's. Thanks again Charlest!
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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2004, 10:52:31 PM »
The Mo Rich Minotaur is a great ball..Didnt hook a whole lot for me but was a great ball..I had mind drilled Pin over ring cg almost stacked below and the MB or w/e they call theres at the left of the thumb..Was a great ball..I used it for most mediums and could always find a line with the ball..
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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2004, 11:21:31 PM »
The best I can give you is my experience with 2 different Colossus's and a Pioneer.
The Pioneer is a fanmtastic ball for light oil, and provides the ability to get through the heads easily. Allowed me to play down the boards in a light/med and give some swing area in lighter patterns. Does not really like much carry down however.
I have had 2 Colossus's. The first was drilled for a more skid/snap. Although a ball I enjoyed, I chose to drill the 2nd with the "control" drilling. It provided me with much more versatility. I had played with different cover finishes on the 1st, and always came back to the box finish, or maybe a bit more polish.
The 2nd one...wow, box finish, nice even rolling ball, finishes hard, and very readable.
I am now looking to put a Mayhem in my arsenal for the "soup", which I rarely encounter.
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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2004, 02:43:33 AM »
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Hey Charlest, thanks so much for the clarification! I had some more questions if you don't mind. If I could find the reg. Colossus, that would replace the Laby right?


I don't think so. The Colossus has a stronge rcore and a stronger cover. I have not used one but reviews indicate a bigger hook and it needs/handles a higher level of oil than the Labyrinth.

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Also, I've been looking at the "control" drilling specs for their balls. Does this drill pattern, depending on which ball your using for its specific lane condition, make the ball have a controlled strong rolling hook to the pocket. I like to send the ball long, set up, and roll HARD into the pocket!


Since the Laby is discontinued, I do not see its drillings on the website. YOur safest bet is to email Morich. Believe me, they are all too eager to help out with good suggestions.

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My confort zone is playing between 10-15 and I love to play in the oil if the shot is there! Don't get me wrong, I know how to adjust, I'm just letting you know what I like so you can get an idea of how I throw. If I can find the reg. Colossus, I'd get that instead of the Lamby, I just don't know if I can get from my proshop here. Oh yeah, to answer your question, the name of the pro shop is Nelson's Trophy/Pro Shop. The gentleman I'd be going through is Gary "The Guru" Parson's. Thanks again Charlest!
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Both the Colossus and the Labyrinth are officially discontinued balls. I have an undrilled 16 lb Labyrinth, but I'm not where you can get these unless someone has some old stock or on ebay.

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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2004, 09:39:16 AM »
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Since the Laby is discontinued, I do not see its drillings on the website. YOur safest bet is to email Morich. Believe me, they are all too eager to help out with good suggestions.


Just an FYI Charlest, MoRich does have the drilling specs for the Laby. Take a look see:

http://www.morich.net/Labyrinth/InfoSheet.htm

Hey all, thanks again so much for the replies and knowledge. I'll probably drill all my stuff to be "control" category when I'm done. I NEED to be able to read what my equipment is doing, especially if I'm throwing it correctly! Thanks again and Happy New Year!
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Re: Need help with 1st MoRich ball...
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2004, 02:35:30 PM »
I drilled my labyrinth up and boy is it strong and early.  I took the suggestions from the Morich site by plugging in all the answers to their questions.  The pin is up 1 1/2" above the midline and drilled with the pin below the ring 4" from PAP. MB is 1 inch from thumb with a weight hole in the thumb positive quadrant.  Surface at 600 with Elixir.

This ball is early and strong.  I do not have a lot of axis tilt but can play quite a bit of rotation.  This ball never rolls out and drives the pocket well.  It carries better than a lot of other equipment I have thrown.

I will experiment with the cover a little more to see if I could get a little more length out of it.  It could be a go to ball.

I may consider the onslaught after seeing this ball.

By the way this is the first Morich ball I have thrown.
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