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bestbudzs24 · « **on:** February 08, 2009, 04:18:43 PM »

i have had this ball sitting in my closet undrilled for a few years now.i am thinking about having it drilled up. my question is what conditions will this ball shine on.i have a awesome flip that i love. how much stronger or weaker will this ball be compared to the awesome flip. i know the flip is a pearl but the awesome finish is highly polished how much different will the reaction be between theses 2 balls. thanks in advance for all your help
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mainzer · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2009, 08:11:35 AM »

Finish will be stronger than Flip with a similiar drill pattern, Due to the Stronger cover on the Finish (Solid Reactive vs Pearl Reactive on the Flip.) Finish will turn the corner a little earlier and smoother than Flip.

Still has easy length, and great power in the pocket, I set mine up for Control so mine don't hook all that much all the time but on Sport and PBA Patterns it is second to none!
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2009, 02:25:26 AM »

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Finish will be stronger than Flip with a similiar drill pattern, Due to the Stronger cover on the Finish (Solid Reactive vs Pearl Reactive on the Flip.) Finish will turn the corner a little earlier and smoother than Flip.

From my experience, I would put both balls the other way around. Flip has the Absolute Inferno cover (Activator+) which reads the lane much better than the solid PK18 on the Finish.
On the other side, the Finish has a lower RG core and a slightly stronger MB than the Flip's Vanguard core - the result is (at least for me) that the Finish goes longer and is much more violent at the breakpoint than the Flip or S&A (basically the same ball except for marginal core differences), it revs up very easily. IMO, the Flip has more continuation throughout the lane.
Personally, I would never say that the Finish was stronger than the Flip, esp. at OOB surface and if drilled for length/flip. Even when setup rollier, I'd consider the Flip the ball with better oil handling properties.
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mainzer · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2009, 03:58:37 PM »

Sorry Dizzy, I can't see a Solid Reactive being out Hooked by a pearl. The Flip has more Backend than Finish but don't confuse backend with total amount of boards covered.

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Spider Ball Bowler · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2009, 04:14:06 PM »

I had the Finish and it was a HUGE dud. Maybe the drilling wasn't right or something, but the ball just slid for days. Tried to change the surface, and a little bit better, but not even close to a good ball reaction.
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bestbudzs24 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:45:42 PM »

thanks for all the input guys. went out and practiced a little this morning with my awesome finish. and all i can say is WOW i wish i would have drilled it up a few years ago.for me this ball is absolute money on the fresh THS it was like i could do no wrong.get it out a little too far and WHAM it comes roaring back.tug it a little inside and it just held in the oil right to the pocket.and the carry was amazing not a single 7 pin.just a couple stone 6's.shot 3 games with it went 224,279,299(stone 6 pin lol)with 18 in a row.i might just have to get me another one and pack it away in the closet for later use lol.
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2009, 09:35:18 AM »

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Sorry Dizzy, I can't see a Solid Reactive being out Hooked by a pearl. The Flip has more Backend than Finish but don't confuse backend with total amount of boards covered.

No problem

But that's my experience with those balls. For me (with the same layout, pin at 4.5" from PAP above fingers, MB stacked/at 90Â°), the Finish would fit under the Flip and S&A condition-wise, being longer and more violent at the break point. The reaction was much more delayed, or in other words more "cramped" into the back end, into less space. Hard to tell which ball would cover more boards - probably the Activator+ balls, but they'd definitively start redaing the lane earlier and more evenly than the Finish.

Besides, I also had big issues with my Finish at OOB surface. It had poor traction and was an ugly thing to control (esyp. with its delayed action on the lane). At 4.000 Abralon, this became much better, and whe I finally hit it with 3M Finesse-It Trizact compound, I got a good compromise between length and control. I think it is the core that makes the ball a bit itchy, since it revs up so easily due to its low RG.
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Jesse James · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2009, 09:54:39 AM »

Just a question: What conditions are you using the Awesome Finish and Awesome flip on?

I have recently come into possesion of an AwFinish and I experienced what Dizzy talked about.
This ball revs easily, goes very long, but has an "awesome finish" packed into the last few boards that it covers! Wow! Eureka....that's it!

Hence it's name. Mine is drilled about 6" from PAP with the MB kicked to the right about 30*
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:42:57 AM »

I use my Finish on medium conditions, including easy THS as well as what is considered here to be a sport league shot, say 37-39' of oil, 18-22ml, most oil inside of 10th board and buffed outsides with no dry boards. As a benchmark, it handles pretty much the same conditions as my Igniter or Smash Zone, but is definitively a step down from my Frankie May Gryphon at 1.500 wet sanded.
On a THS, I can swing the lane with the Finish, covering lots of boards. On the league shot(s), I tend to play a straighter line between 2nd and 3rd arrow - sending it down and rely on the clean back end and the Finish's impressive hockey stick shaped hook to recover from almost anyweher. It goes long and turns pretty sharp - I did not expect this, because I also thought "Well, a solid, that sounds like good control". Nope

. But: it bears its name righteously. It is amazing what the core can make of a "simple" PK18 ball.

The S&A handled more oil (sold it a couple of moths ago). Esp. on a fresh league shot it hooked earlier and overall more than the Finish - it handled and needed more oil, just with polish it would come quite close to the Finish. It found its limits when the heads or the track area would dry up, and that was besides curiosity the reason why I added the Finish "under" the S&A and wanted to keep the polished surface.
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bestbudzs24 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:28:33 AM »

hey dizzy so if i am understanding you right the finish would work on the shorter patterns but not the longer ones. just trying to get an idea cause i have only thrown 3 games with it in practice and on the fresh THS for me at least this thing is a BEAST. thanks in advance for taking the time to answer some of my questions
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:35:59 AM »

Well, the Finish actually works on longer oil, if the back end is clean. The great thing about the ball is that it revs up so quickly, it does not need much area to work. But at OOB it just does not handle oil well, it is not its home turf. Long and light to medium patterns are O.k though, if you can live with a straight line, and sanding the piece will make it more readable.
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Jesse James · « **Reply #11 on:** February 18, 2009, 02:01:43 PM »

Dizzyfugu,

Thanks for the great advice. Used my Awesome Finish last nite for the very first time. Used it on a lite oil condition that is usually very squirrly, and in one of the tougher houses we bowl in.

I got great results, as I shot 224-225-223=672 with it. This is the first time that I was able to put three 200 games together like that at this house.

And did not have to change balls at all. Very impressive. Thanks again.
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