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chitown

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MoRich layouts?
« on: January 25, 2008, 02:39:56 AM »
Every MO RICH ball i've seen bowlers use has the pin always next to the ring either a couple inches above or even with.

I have never seen anyone use a pin above the bridge (5.5" from pap).  It seems everyone places the pins 4.5" from there pap's or closer.  

Anyone on here ever use a 5 to 5.5" from pap pin location on there MO RICH equipment?
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Re: MoRich layouts?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 11:20:13 AM »
My 'Nsane LevRg is drilled 70 DA - 5 1/2 - 60 VA which puts the pin in the middle finger. Have only used it 4 complete matches so far. Had a 299 with it. Most aggressive back end ball I have ever thrown. It is good for 4-5 stone 9's per match. Mine could be called 'Nsane CheckmaRK.

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 11:29:45 AM »
The pin location on morich only is going to determine foward roll or side roll, not that big of a factor, but what is a big factor that really determines what the ball is going to do is the MB location. the closer to your VAL the MB is the smoother and more archy the ball will be. Closer to the thumb and it makes the ball much stronger. Each ball has a drill sheet. If you don't want to risk sticking holes in a ball like that just go by the sheet or ask morich their self. they have a layout section for emails and you can ask them directly what they think. www.morichbowling.com
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chitown

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 12:23:07 PM »
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The pin location on morich only is going to determine foward roll or side roll, not that big of a factor, but what is a big factor that really determines what the ball is going to do is the MB location. the closer to your VAL the MB is the smoother and more archy the ball will be. Closer to the thumb and it makes the ball much stronger. Each ball has a drill sheet. If you don't want to risk sticking holes in a ball like that just go by the sheet or ask morich their self. they have a layout section for emails and you can ask them directly what they think. www.morichbowling.com
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I don't really understand the forward roll/ side roll deal when it comes to the pin location.  I have heard this before but never really understood that from a pin location stand point.  I know a low degree layout with the MB closer to ones VAL is going to force the ball into it's roll sooner than having the MB closer to the thumb.  However, from a pin location stand point it don't make much sense.  A bowlers release has to be a big influence as well.

Now if bowler has there pin 5" above the bridge and the MB close to the thumb then what would they expect reaction wise?  The pin would be in the forward roll position but the MB is not?  Get what i'm saying?  Now take that same pin location and put the MB on the bowlers VAL and you should see more forward roll on the back end.
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chitown

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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 12:57:41 PM »
Well this is what I decided on.  I'm having my driller place the pin above the bridge 5.5" from my pap, placing the MB on my VAL and using a balance hole.  

I'm sure whatever reaction I get from this layout will be good.  If the ball turns out to be a winner for me I will porbably get another and experiment with a different layout.  I'm going to try it out this weekend and will let you know how it reacts.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 01:05:32 PM »
What ball are you using this on?
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 01:37:37 PM »
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What ball are you using this on?
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I'm using the layout on the LEVRG.  I just bought the ball!  I'm pretty excited about trying it out on some tough conditions I face at league.  The only other ball i've owned from MORICH was a AH which was another great ball.  I don't own it anymore though.  I start out with a brand new arsenal every season.  The pro shop I use takes trade-ins on equipment bought from him.  It works out great for me.
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NicholasE

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 05:11:26 PM »
Well usually for me a pin up layout is going to start up earlier then all of the other pins. The pin to the right of the ring goes a little longer and then pin down goes Very long. But if the ball has side roll it promotes the ball to skid, more forward roll it rolls up faster and will arch more. The MB being close to the VAL will smooth out the reaction. Right now my PIN to PAP distance is 5" I do believe thats what I put it at, but pin anywhere between about 5-6" is going to produce the most forward roll and if you're placing your MB on the VAL its going to be a very easy controlled arch with plenty of continuation. Its not going to cover alot of boards but its consistant and will do well on a PBA shot or anything with lots of oil.

Here is a pic of my layout:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Bigdriver12/LevRG.jpg
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Re: MoRich layouts?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2008, 11:24:41 AM »
my levrg is drilled up w/pin right over bridge.  It is decent, not real strong.
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Re: MoRich layouts?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2008, 11:37:19 AM »
This better?

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x16/madcelt2000/IMG_0265.jpg

Oh wait... that's still a 4.5" pin...

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Edited on 1/26/2008 1:00 PM
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chitown

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Re: MoRich layouts?
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2008, 12:32:58 PM »
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my levrg is drilled up w/pin right over bridge.  It is decent, not real strong.


How far is it from your pap?  Where the MB located?
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chitown

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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2008, 12:36:11 PM »
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Well usually for me a pin up layout is going to start up earlier then all of the other pins. The pin to the right of the ring goes a little longer and then pin down goes Very long. But if the ball has side roll it promotes the ball to skid, more forward roll it rolls up faster and will arch more. The MB being close to the VAL will smooth out the reaction. Right now my PIN to PAP distance is 5" I do believe thats what I put it at, but pin anywhere between about 5-6" is going to produce the most forward roll and if you're placing your MB on the VAL its going to be a very easy controlled arch with plenty of continuation. Its not going to cover alot of boards but its consistant and will do well on a PBA shot or anything with lots of oil.

Here is a pic of my layout:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Bigdriver12/LevRG.jpg
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My MB ended upo being about 3" right of thumb very close to my VAL.  My pin is above the bridge 5.5" from my pap.  I can't wait to roll the ball tomorrow at league.  We have a new pattern being put this week so I hope i'm able to get a good look from this ball.  I have a feeling there going to put out the long pattern.  My league uses 5 patterns this season and run them for about 6 weeks at a time.

I really hope this ball give me a good reaction on oil.  I could of drilled the ball stronger but wanted to really see what it would do with my favorite pin location.
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chitown

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Re: MoRich layouts?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2008, 12:38:15 PM »
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This better?

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x16/madcelt2000/IMG_0265.jpg

Oh wait... that's still a 4.5" pin...

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Edited on 1/26/2008 1:00 PM


I have seen a lot of MORICH balls with this pin location.  It seems to be the most popular.   Kind of like the Tommy Jones pin location.
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chitown

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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2008, 12:54:47 PM »
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Well usually for me a pin up layout is going to start up earlier then all of the other pins. The pin to the right of the ring goes a little longer and then pin down goes Very long. But if the ball has side roll it promotes the ball to skid, more forward roll it rolls up faster and will arch more. The MB being close to the VAL will smooth out the reaction. Right now my PIN to PAP distance is 5" I do believe thats what I put it at, but pin anywhere between about 5-6" is going to produce the most forward roll and if you're placing your MB on the VAL its going to be a very easy controlled arch with plenty of continuation. Its not going to cover alot of boards but its consistant and will do well on a PBA shot or anything with lots of oil.

Here is a pic of my layout:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Bigdriver12/LevRG.jpg
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The pin down layout should get into it's roll earlier than pin up.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: MoRich layouts?
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2008, 01:25:13 PM »
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This better?

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x16/madcelt2000/IMG_0265.jpg

Oh wait... that's still a 4.5" pin...

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"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."


Edited on 1/26/2008 1:00 PM


I have seen a lot of MORICH balls with this pin location.  It seems to be the most popular.   Kind of like the Tommy Jones pin location.
Likewise.  A guy on my Tuesday league has (I think) a Weapon of Mass Bias drilled up like that, he shot a 300 with it earlier this year (against my team, no less).
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