I have my TA drilled pin above ring, MB just right and below thumb with an X-hole inside PAP. The cover is polished as my driller wanted me to be able to get it down the lane. I've only bowled about 10 games with it, but we definitely are not friends!! I'm beginning to think I just don't like strong asym's. I definitely find this one harder to read than my Apocalypse. I'm seeming to prefer balls that rev right off my hand rather than lope through the front. When I can hit the pocket, this ball carries -- it's just a matter of finding the pocket. It's definitely a stronger ball than most of my others, but right now it's been a guessing game for me. Anyone else experience this when trying Mo's stuff or strong asymm's in general?