Author Topic: First night with the Finish -- where's this over/under...? (Read 1807 times)

JessN16 · « **on:** February 19, 2008, 12:41:39 PM »

...that I see people complaining about?

Mine was left box finish. Ball is drilled 50/4/50 using the dual angle system, which puts put just above and right of ring and the MB almost directly under the thumb, just a little to the right. No weight hole.

I've been in a terrible slump for six weeks, but tonight I went 195-206-196 on a shot some others were struggling on. Granted, 597 isn't a huge set but considering I'd been in the five-ohs for six weeks it's big for me.

The ball had great hold, good recovery, and my goodness, the carry! Better than most things I've thrown the last 3-4 months.

This is my first MoRich ball and I couldn't be more pleased.

Jess

Edited on 2/19/2008 10:09 PM

explorer05 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 19, 2008, 09:00:31 PM »

I have 2 Morich balls the Seek & Destroy this ball is wonderful carries great on medium and heavy oil. It also carries wonderful on light hits also.

I also just got the Insane Lev and this ball hits like a tank. It carries wonderful. I shot 266 out of the box with it.

charlest · « **Reply #2 on:** February 19, 2008, 09:00:37 PM »

If you're on a house blended oil pattern, you won't see the over/under reaction.

If you have a control drill on the ball, you're less likely to see it.

If you have a more end-over-end release, you're less likely to see it.

If you play well into the dry part of the lane for the breakpoint, you're less likely to see the over/under.

The ball is not an over/under ball, unless you do the opposite of what I described above or you use it on the wrong condition: too much dry or too much oil.

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JessN16 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 19, 2008, 09:09:43 PM »

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If you're on a house blended oil pattern, you won't see the over/under reaction.

If you have a control drill on the ball, you're less likely to see it.

If you have a more end-over-end release, you're less likely to see it.

If you play well into the dry part of the lane for the breakpoint, you're less likely to see the over/under.

The ball is not an over/under ball, unless you do the opposite of what I described above or you use it on the wrong condition: too much dry or too much oil.

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Granted those facts, but there were an inordinately large number of people, IMO, talking about having to make a surface adjustment from the start. It got me scared of it, too, but when I started throwing tonight expecting to have some issues with it and didn't, I was left scratching my head a bit. It was very easy to dial in minute adjustments via hand positions, minor moves with the feet, etc. I don't usually have that kind of control over a ball others label as a little jumpy, regardless of external factors.

Jess

explorer05 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 19, 2008, 09:15:06 PM »

I would not through either of my 2 morich's on medium oil though because it is to much ball for the lane.

charlest · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2008, 09:28:55 PM »

Jess,

Remember also the high gloss shine that ball has on it, a result of using both Rough Buff and the Brunswick polish on it. AND BTM and BJI tests indicated it barely covered medium oil patterns, which is rather bizarre for a PK 18 solid coverstock around ANY CORE.

I'd refinish that ball before I ever used, IF I WERE TO BUY IT. I was tempted several times, but my luck with MoRich balls has been ... not good. I keep underestimating the strength of the MB in my drillings for myself.

So I have a Bruiser that fills the role of an Awesome FInish just fine, thank you.
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JessN16 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2008, 09:40:19 PM »

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Jess,

Remember also the high gloss shine that ball has on it, a result of using both Rough Buff and the Brunswick polish on it. AND BTM and BJI tests indicated it barely covered medium oil patterns, which is rather bizarre for a PK 18 solid coverstock around ANY CORE.

I'd refinish that ball before I ever used, IF I WERE TO BUY IT. I was tempted several times, but my luck with MoRich balls has been ... not good. I keep underestimating the strength of the MB in my drillings for myself. So I have a Bruiser that fills the role of an Awesome FInish just fine, thank you.
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I never saw those BTM/BJI reviews but from what I saw tonight, I have to wonder what's going on there.

One of the guys on our lane tonight was throwing a drilled-strong NVS and a drilled-strong Raid. He had a high-rev power stroker teammate using a Classic Zone and another high-speed tweener using a dull No Mercy. I had a better look than any of them. I had smoother transitions than Mr. NVS/Raid, more area than Mr. Classic Zone and more hold than Mr. No Mercy.

On our pair, the pair to the right and the pair to the left, I kept hearing the word "spotty" used as an excuse why Bowler X couldn't score. I either was in some kind of zone or it was the ball, for me. In practice, I also brought out my Rico-drilled Thunderstruck and an Ebonite Matrix Conquest drilled to play in the dry, and I saw spotty then. Didn't see it with the AF, though.

I've always done well with Mo's stuff (i.e, AMF XS, etc.), just like I seem to really do well with Storm's assymetrical balls and Roto Grip's symmetrical offerings. I have no explanation for it.

Jess

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2008, 02:28:54 AM »

Jess, I am one of those who had problems with the AFi at OOB - for me it was pretty squirty, but from what I can tell about the ball so far is that if you have a good amount of revs (compared to your speed), the over/under problem should not be so severe. I am a rather slow/medium revs bowler, and get to witness traction problems more clearly and faster/higher revs players, simply because the physics kick in more dramatically.

The AFi IS a good ball, no question, but I think its basic concept of a low RG core, paired with a strong MB and the polsihed surface makes is a... special, if not extreme ball. No wonder MoRich sent the Solid LevRG after it, a similar concept, but IMHO much tamer overall and easier to handle for a wider range of bowlers.

If I had not experimented a lot with the AFi's surface, I'd probably had called it a crap ball. But knowing what's possible with the proper surface setup, I did not give up on it (and me, too), and now, with a Trizact compound high gloss finish, the ball is a deadly weapon on medium consitions. The OOB polish was simply too little surface for me and the condistions I frequently face.

Nice to hear that the ball worked well for you from the start

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JessN16 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2008, 09:31:25 AM »

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Jess, I am one of those who had problems with the AFi at OOB - for me it was pretty squirty, but from what I can tell about the ball so far is that if you have a good amount of revs (compared to your speed), the over/under problem should not be so severe. I am a rather slow/medium revs bowler, and get to witness traction problems more clearly and faster/higher revs players, simply because the physics kick in more dramatically.

The AFi IS a good ball, no question, but I think its basic concept of a low RG core, paired with a strong MB and the polsihed surface makes is a... special, if not extreme ball. No wonder MoRich sent the Solid LevRG after it, a similar concept, but IMHO much tamer overall and easier to handle for a wider range of bowlers.

If I had not experimented a lot with the AFi's surface, I'd probably had called it a crap ball. But knowing what's possible with the proper surface setup, I did not give up on it (and me, too), and now, with a Trizact compound high gloss finish, the ball is a deadly weapon on medium consitions. The OOB polish was simply too little surface for me and the condistions I frequently face.

Nice to hear that the ball worked well for you from the start
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That makes sense. When I amped up my speed to shoot spares I did notice a wider range of hook from shot to shot. Maybe I just hit the "sweet spot" relative to revs/speed and my style.

And Mo's dual-angle drilling method is exquisitely simple and effective.

Jess

mainzer · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2008, 01:26:59 PM »

mine is drilled about the same and it is great for meduim conditions and drier conditions great lenght with a nice smooth break point.
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