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Revs and Finish coverstock question
« on: October 01, 2007, 08:03:20 AM »
What are the abralon equivalents to the Revs and Finish OOB surfaces?

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Re: Revs and Finish coverstock question
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2007, 04:39:49 PM »
The Revs is Brunswick factory finish Rough Buff and the AFinish is Brunswick factory finish High Gloss.  Closest Abralon pad to Rough Buff is 4000.  I do not know what grit either ball is at when the factory applies the factory finishes to them.  According to the directions on the bottles that the above listed polishes come in, to re-finish the ball with Rough Buff you first have to wet sand the ball to 220 grit then apply the polish.  If you want more length you have to work up through each grit before applying Rough Buff.  Same applies for High Gloss except according to the directions you start at 400 grit.  Try contacting Morich via their website(morichbowling.com) to get exact grit numbers.

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Re: Revs and Finish coverstock question
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 02:50:33 PM »
I was told by MoRich that they sand all their balls to 400 and then apply the polish or Rough-Buff.
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Re: Revs and Finish coverstock question
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 02:59:24 PM »
A while ago, someone posted all the Brunswick Factory finishes, which I printed a copy of.
Revs is rough buff: sand to 220 and apply rough buff polish.
finish is high gloss: sand to 400 and use factory finish high gloss polish
There is really no direct correlation between rough buff and abralon, but my best guess would be 2000-4000 with no polish.
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Re: Revs and Finish coverstock question
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 03:00:16 PM »
According to their Resurfacing page, the Revs is compound/Rough Buff, which is 220-grit sanding followed by the RB compound.  The Finish is polished, 400-grit sanding followed by the High Gloss polish.

The Finish I've seen looks a lot more polished than some of the other Brunswick polished balls I've seen.  Maybe the others I've seen are not in as good a shape, but the Finish is very shiny.  Almost like Storm's 1500-grit polished balls.

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Re: Revs and Finish coverstock question
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2007, 07:14:56 AM »
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According to their Resurfacing page, the Revs is compound/Rough Buff, which is 220-grit sanding followed by the RB compound.  The Finish is polished, 400-grit sanding followed by the High Gloss polish.

The Finish I've seen looks a lot more polished than some of the other Brunswick polished balls I've seen.  Maybe the others I've seen are not in as good a shape, but the Finish is very shiny.  Almost like Storm's 1500-grit polished balls.

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Second that about the Finish - I never achieved the OOB finish on any Brunswick ball with 400 grit base + HG polish. I always have visible sanding lines, that persist even at 1.000 grit base. Maybe the 400 grit works at the factory with mechanical sanding, but for the OOB looks I apply a 1.500 grit wet sanded base before adding polish. Works well, by the way, as well as 2.000 grit Abralon as a sanding base.
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Re: Revs and Finish coverstock question
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2007, 08:47:25 AM »
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According to their Resurfacing page, the Revs is compound/Rough Buff, which is 220-grit sanding followed by the RB compound.  The Finish is polished, 400-grit sanding followed by the High Gloss polish.

The Finish I've seen looks a lot more polished than some of the other Brunswick polished balls I've seen.  Maybe the others I've seen are not in as good a shape, but the Finish is very shiny.  Almost like Storm's 1500-grit polished balls.

SH


Second that about the Finish - I never achieved the OOB finish on any Brunswick ball with 400 grit base + HG polish. I always have visible sanding lines, that persist even at 1.000 grit base. Maybe the 400 grit works at the factory with mechanical sanding, but for the OOB looks I apply a 1.500 grit wet sanded base before adding polish. Works well, by the way, as well as 2.000 grit Abralon as a sanding base.
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To achieve the compound finish on the Revs, I have also had good success by wet sanding with 220 grit and applying Rough Buff.

For the Finish, I go 400, RB Compound, and then following with HG Polish. The lines that you speak of, aren't there once you smooth the cover with the Rough Buff and then apply the polish.

Polishing results very greatly when steps are skipped. If you leave lines from previous steps of coarser sanding, they will be there when you add the polish. Since Rough Buff is basically just a rubbing compound, it removes the heavier sanded lines making the cover smoother and allowing the polish to shine the ball to higher gloss finish.

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Re: Revs and Finish coverstock question
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2007, 10:34:39 AM »
For the compound finish, I use a maroon pad (~320 grit, I guess), and then Rough Buff - looks pretty much OOB to me (S&A).
Well, with a finer grit base the sanding lines disappear "under" the polish - but with the 400 grit recommendation by Brunswick, this does not happen for me at all? Without some steps in between (1.000 and 1.500), I cannot get the sanding lines to disappear, and I found that I have a rather bad traction with sanding lines under the polish, regardless of the coverstock manufacturer.
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