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IHFN

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Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« on: October 16, 2007, 02:03:03 PM »
I ordered a 16 pound Shock and Awe off ebay for super cheap.  I wanted to try a 16 pound ball and I like Morich so I figured I'd give it a shot.  I got the ball today.  On the box it says, 4-5.5 inch pin.  Well, the pin is 5.5 inches.  It is about 2-3 inches from the Mass Bias on the ball.  The driller I took it too, was like, "well, we are going to have to get creative.  The good thing is that the top weight is 1.2oz".  

I'm not going to be able to get it drilled until Thursday, so if anyone here has some suggestions on how to drill the ball let me know.  I usually like the pin just below my ring finger (righty), but I'm thinking that won't be possible with this ball...
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2007, 10:17:45 PM »
No wonder it was soo cheap.

5.5 inch pin and 1.2 oz top.. Thats horrid.
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2007, 10:23:12 PM »
That's awesome for any Ball Driller that knows what he/she's doing.
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2007, 10:28:28 PM »
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Well, the pin is 5.5 inches.  It is about 2-3 inches from the Mass Bias on the ball.


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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2007, 10:43:05 PM »
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Well, the pin is 5.5 inches.  It is about 2-3 inches from the Mass Bias on the ball.


HUH????????


You're probably assuming that the Pin/cg/MB are in a straight line.  It's easy to get a 5.5" pin out and a 2" cg to MB length if the cg is off the Pin/MB line by 1 1/2".
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2007, 10:57:11 PM »
No matter what, the MB will always be marked at least 6 3/4 away from the pin, no matter where the C.G. is.  Think about your visual for a second again.  MB can't even be mismarked in Morich balls because there is an extra pin poured where the actual MB is.
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IHFN

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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2007, 11:25:20 PM »
Sorry, I meant the CG was that close to the Mass Bias.  My mistake.
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2007, 06:58:04 AM »
I have a Revs and a Finish that were "long pin specials." Perfect balls for asy flip drills.
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IHFN

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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2007, 08:13:25 AM »
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I have a Revs and a Finish that were "long pin specials." Perfect balls for asy flip drills.
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Where did you put the CG and MB on yours?
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2007, 09:24:30 AM »
The only thing that the cg matters for on that ball is whether or not you will need a weight hole. Your layout is controlled by the pin and mass bias. The low top weight will mean a smaller hole. your driller may have to drill the thumb deeper to help remove thumb weight
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IHFN

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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2007, 10:28:24 AM »
So, if I understand MB correctly (I may be wrong), the further right I put the MB of the 90 degree angle, the more skid/flip will occur?  Do you want the MB anywhere near the line of your PAP?
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2007, 11:13:35 AM »
Actually it's the other way.  MB's towards the thumb hole tend to be flippier than ones toward the VAL.  A pretty standard asym. flip drilling is stack the pin and MB 1.5 in. away from the VAL and target weight based on where the CG ends up.  This will give a strong but sideways reaction given the characteristcs of the weight block/coverstock on the S&A.
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2007, 11:21:36 AM »
Tell your ball driller to go to one of Mo's seminars.  As previously stated the thumb may have to be drilled deeper or a weight hole can be added to take care of teh additional thumb weight that you will tend to get with a 5.5" pin.  Ask your ball driller why this is a problem, and if he says anything like "you can't have negative side weight" take the ball to someone that knows what they are doing.  Double drilling the thumb may also be an option.
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2007, 11:39:08 AM »
Double drill the thumb if you have to.  As in take it as deep as possible with a 2nd drill bit--go down a couple of sizes if you are putting a slug in.  Might have to have a pin above the fingers, but this ball is very drillable.
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2007, 12:42:46 PM »
Thanks for the reply's and advice everyone.  I'll go talk to the driller after work today.  Thanks!
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