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jjweb

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Shock & Awe vs Paradigm
« on: January 01, 2006, 12:09:36 PM »
How would the two compare?

 

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Re: Shock & Awe vs Paradigm
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2006, 10:14:48 PM »
I was wondering the exact samething today!!!
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Re: Shock & Awe vs Paradigm
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2006, 07:02:10 AM »
Depending on drilling and surface condition, the Shock & Awe is for medium to medium-heavy oil while the Paradigm is for medium-light to medium oil with clean backends. The S&E is much more capable of many different looks on the lane, depending on bowler and drilling, while the Paradigm is basically a go long and flip/strong arc ball. The S&A can be just as strong at the backend, but handles(actually needs) more oil, and handles it more easily.

This was driven home to me last week when one of our better bowlers was trying out his new Paradigm, when he normally KILLS the lanes with his Shock & Awe. He was on the next pair, tearing his hair out trying to make the Paradigm work, when we had gotten medium+ oil amounts (not quite medium-heavy) and the Paradigm couldn't make the turn or carry. I asked Ned why he wasn't going back to the S&A; he said he was just trying to see what the Paradigm was capable of doing.
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jjweb

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Re: Shock & Awe vs Paradigm
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2006, 11:20:33 AM »
Charlest, is your friend a high rev guy? Let's say box finish on both balls with asymmetrical flip drillings.

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Re: Shock & Awe vs Paradigm
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2006, 11:59:26 AM »
I'm seeing more and more of these. I love my S&A on certain conditions, but it lacks the backend snap I would like to see. It does snap, don't get me wrong, but I'd like to see more continuation through the pocket. I get a hook stop reaction, which is fine. Being a low rev guy, I don't expect anything to be skid snap. I was thinking the lower RG, combined with the Paradigm's other features, would get it revving sooner, and help me get more of the 'skid snap' look.

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Re: Shock & Awe vs Paradigm
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2006, 02:59:05 PM »
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Charlest, is your friend a high rev guy? Let's say box finish on both balls with asymmetrical flip drillings.


No, kind of average, maybe slightly more - 300-ish.
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Re: Shock & Awe vs Paradigm
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2006, 03:02:17 PM »
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In my Opinion, the hook stop reaction is caused by a little to much friction to early (Which is sometime due to a Low amount of Positive side weight) or a surface that is sanded with to low of a grit (Say 500 box with Rough Buff), if your looking for more finish on lighter oil, the Sahara with an agressive drilling would work better for you!
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I agree with Dr Rev. I got kind of a hook and stop or a VERY strong midlane when the ball had too much surface for the oil pattern. I have always had a decent polish on my S&A to get any kind of decent reaction at all. Dull I could use it on a flood that I never found. That Vanguard core is far too strong.

You guys, jjweb & numberone, need more polish on yours or a higher (or closer to PAP) pin position.
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