Author Topic: Teammate has a Total Annihilation... (Read 1042 times)

DukeHarding · « **on:** January 01, 2006, 01:43:47 PM »

Ball did not hook for him.
He sanded it to 600 grit, still burns up. (He doesn't understand the concept of sanding a ball...thinks that sanding the ball to a rougher grit will make the ball hook...doesn't understand "burning up".)

I'm going to bring the ball up to 800 grit, coat of Magic Shine. This should save some energy...Would 1000 grit be better for an older bowler with low ball speed, low revs?
He's bottom of the league at 156...Was a 200 average bowler a few years back...
I've talked him into seeing a coach, and getting videotaped.

Any other ideas?

Thanks,
& a Happy new Year.
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Anyone who keeps learning stays young.
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Slopsurprise · « **Reply #1 on:** January 01, 2006, 10:10:55 PM »

I have a teammate that is the same way!!! He insists on throwing a 600 grit arsenal reactive or a OOB Trifecta on a medium pattern (at best) and he wonders why he dosent carry. He also wonders why the ball isnt moving the enitre lane! He has a nice polished X-factor in his bag that he never throws. He says it wont hook as much but, he never throws it?

? He also bowls on toasted lanes during practice and he complains that his Brunswick dry R moves more boards than anything in his bag. He say's, (why is this moving so many boards, it is supposed to be a dry lane ball). I feel like smacking the crap out of him! He just dosent listen! Sorry about my rant!

BTW, if 600 is buring up on him, I would personally throw some polish on top of the 600 and be done with it! When I polish most balls, I like to take it 600 or below before polishing.
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tekneek · « **Reply #2 on:** January 01, 2006, 10:15:08 PM »

my preference would be sanded to 1200 no polish. I tried polish over 1000 grit wet sand and found it to be to herky jerky coming off the buff especially later in the evening with minimal carrydown. At 1200 it was much smooth off the buff with a complete contolled continuation and a great midlane read. But then again its only my .02
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charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2006, 06:55:21 AM »

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Ball did not hook for him.
He sanded it to 600 grit, still burns up. (He doesn't understand the concept of sanding a ball...thinks that sanding the ball to a rougher grit will make the ball hook...doesn't understand "burning up".)

I'm going to bring the ball up to 800 grit, coat of Magic Shine. This should save some energy...Would 1000 grit be better for an older bowler with low ball speed, low revs? .......
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Duke Harding

We all have some guys we know who sand the most aggressive balls rougher and rougher, while the lanes get drier and drier, plus they insist on throwing it up the 2nd arrow no matter what. If the pro shops would only take 10 seconds to see that the guy throws the ball like 10 mph ....

1000 grit on such an aggressive ball for a low speed bowler is probably still far too rough. I'd go even further than tekneek and suggest starting at 1500 or 2000 grit. Even 800 grit plus a light coat of polish is a good starting point.

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DukeHarding · « **Reply #4 on:** January 02, 2006, 03:45:53 PM »

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Duke, did your friend get the TA drilled correctly for him? Most of the time, if a Morich is not drilled right for the person, it won't matter how you sanded it! I have also found that allot of the Older generation that drills up reactive balls are still using the old Rubber/Urethane state of thinking! The TA is a Medium-Heavy oil ball that can not be used by slower speeds unless it is thrown on 45 feet of oil and the ball needs to be sanded between 2000-4000 Grit just to get this ball to react and carry! If only your friend could be talked into a Ebonite Tornado for the lighter stuff (Drilled strong), he could roll and carry his old 200 average again but telling this to some people is like talking to a wall! Their way is the best way and your Full Of It in Their eyes until you drag them kicking and screaming into a ball that will work for them!
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He has a 3D Offset Hammer...Which I cleaned up, sanded to 600, put a coat of polish on it...The shot is pretty brutal. High righty in the league is just below 190. High lefty is 194. I just joined the league and after 3 weeks am averaging over 200. House strips on Monday oils every day...League is Thursday. Condition is "carry down" city. The right side is a nightmare, glad I'm left-handed on this shot.

He doesn't use the Morich ball much...if he points it up he misses Brookyln...swings it, burns out and goes straight. I'm trying to talk him into letting me rework the surface...I think he will.

I'll probably clean it sand it to 1000 and put some polish on it.

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"Anyone who stops learning is old, whether at twenty or eighty.
Anyone who keeps learning stays young.
The greatest thing in life is to keep your mind young." -- Henry Ford

DukeHarding · « **Reply #5 on:** January 02, 2006, 03:50:34 PM »

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We all have some guys we know who sand the most aggressive balls rougher and rougher, while the lanes get drier and drier, plus they insist on throwing it up the 2nd arrow no matter what. If the pro shops would only take 10 seconds to see that the guy throws the ball like 10 mph ....

1000 grit on such an aggressive ball for a low speed bowler is probably still far too rough. I'd go even further than tekneek and suggest starting at 1500 or 2000 grit. Even 800 grit plus a light coat of polish is a good starting point.

I'll probably go with 800...He's trying to throw the ball harder, which is complicating the problem (inconsistent release). He's a firned and hate to see him suffer like this...it's either 10 pin, bucket, washout, maybe 3 strikes a night.
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"Anyone who stops learning is old, whether at twenty or eighty.
Anyone who keeps learning stays young.
The greatest thing in life is to keep your mind young." -- Henry Ford

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