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Title: Target weighting
Post by: snowman4951 on March 14, 2005, 04:38:03 PM: I was talking to someone about the Shock and Awe. They said you need to have it drilled "Target Weighting" technique.What is this?Is this drilling technique just for Morich balls?Thanks!
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: pgpelton on March 15, 2005, 07:38:28 AM: check your messages!
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Paul
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Goof1073 on March 15, 2005, 08:12:33 AM: You could share the information with the rest of the site ya know...

...would be informative.
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: pgpelton on March 15, 2005, 08:14:43 AM: There's no way that I know of to post the Targeted Weighing information on the sight.
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Paul
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: jjweb on March 15, 2005, 08:19:19 AM: I just ordered a Shock and Awe, and I would also like to know what "Target Weighing" is too.
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: khamûl on March 15, 2005, 08:22:51 AM: The short & sweet version...

It is a hole location method that finds the positioning of a balance hole for maximum craterage. In many balls, bigger is better .

It is a technique that will work on any ball, not just Mo's.
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: adman on March 15, 2005, 09:13:29 AM: Where can we find this info. I guess I can google it.

Thanks

azunguy@msn.com

Edited on 3/15/2005 6:00 PM
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: pgpelton on March 15, 2005, 09:54:57 AM: Mo was in town last year and gave me a CD with the info on it.
Send me a pm with an email address.
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Paul
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: the-7-year-itch on March 15, 2005, 10:01:41 AM: Paul,

I just bought a shock & awe and it will be here Friday. Can you sent the info to me at kboteler@jam.rr.com

Thanks I appriciate it!
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: PJM300 on March 15, 2005, 03:33:35 PM: I would like the info as well, I had a sheet and misplaced it. Pjm300@frontiernet.net....

Thanks!
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: TheDude on March 15, 2005, 10:45:56 PM: i'm interested in this as well, i sell alot of mo, and i haven't heard this before. i do have his axis location cd tho.
thedude3170@hotmail.com

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Edited on 3/15/2005 11:41 PM
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: wkf0908 on March 15, 2005, 10:50:11 PM: Paul,

I also bought the "shock & awe" and it will be here Next Week. Kindly could you also sent the info to me at wkf0908@gmail.com

Thanks !
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: snowman4951 on March 15, 2005, 11:06:45 PM: Wow I thought I was the only one. That's why I like Morich and the people who throw them.Everyone helps each other.Keep it up!!!!
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Goof1073 on March 16, 2005, 06:25:08 AM: I think my shop's owner has this information somewhere, but I have yet to see it. Send it over to me too when you get a chance (e-mail is in my profile), thanks!
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Doc Hollywood on March 16, 2005, 07:44:36 AM: Send it to me too

addy in signature line
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: track-atl on March 16, 2005, 07:45:57 AM: my understanding is that target weighting a ball removes side weight and top weight at the same ratios.Mo has a certain targeted(for example target -1/4)this is based on rev rate,tilt, and ball speed.The other option you have is the pitch the weight hole which will add more flare.I have seen in my shop as i keep making the hole bigger it increases the ball reaction.You can target weight any ball.Here is another idea in symetrical ball if put the weight hole down by the thumb and target weight it you can increase the spin time on a determinator.You can call Freddie at MORICH and can give alot more deatils about target weighting.

PS guys there is a chart that mo has on his cd that tells you how many inches from the center of grip to put the hole.
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: tgs300 on March 16, 2005, 08:10:58 AM: I'd like it also, thanks.

scott.tantlinger@gmail.com
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: snowman4951 on March 16, 2005, 11:17:56 PM: anyway to download the cd?
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: AllAirForceTwice on March 17, 2005, 07:11:47 AM: Please send to bowlingicon@hotmail.com

Thanks!
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: chuck on March 17, 2005, 07:19:19 AM: Send it to me at

scbowler300@aol.com
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: laufaye on March 17, 2005, 10:58:55 AM: Please send me an email too, greatly appreciated.

http://nlau@dc.rr.com
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: ShoreLefty on March 17, 2005, 11:09:34 AM: Me too.

swolf@goeaston.net
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: snowman4951 on March 17, 2005, 07:31:39 PM: Does anyone know how to get the cd about the Target weighting?The 2004 WMB cd rom doesn't have it in there.
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: O-Zone on March 17, 2005, 08:16:14 PM: I'm interested as well.

jeffrey.voght@pba.com

Thanks in advance!
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: waynej2000 on March 17, 2005, 08:22:22 PM: Please send me the info as well.

Much appreciated

Thank you,

Waynej2000@hotmail.com
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Pupubowlingcho on March 17, 2005, 09:05:55 PM: wow_hsin@yahoo.com.tw

Thanks
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Jeffrevs on March 18, 2005, 09:44:04 AM: I may be wrong but....(see profile) ...my Animal has a large target hole for midlane read...it's big...and angled out....it does help/work!
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Keith Frye on March 18, 2005, 10:00:15 AM: Precision,

Are finger/thumb weight taken into consideration? If there is an excess amount of either, drilling the hole straight across from center-of-grip would not help bring it back to legal.

Thanks in advance for your response.
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Turbo on March 19, 2005, 07:57:35 PM: quote:
....Without getting into detail about the theory behind "target weighing" the formula used to determine hole location after the ball has been drilled is as follows:

Why do we need to know how to do "target weighing" if we don't know the theory behind it? We need to understand what this is supposed to accomplish in order to make an intelligent decision as to it's favorable use as a ball setup option.
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Next Level PS on March 21, 2005, 11:29:41 PM: MoRich Core Tech Members Only - Balance Hole Placement Chart (Updated Nov 13th)
The most effective placement for a balance hole requires removal of either top or bottom weight with respect to side weight in a correct ratio. Once located, use the proper size hole to remove the amount of desired weight. Note -- Enlarging the diameter of the hole will decrease spin time!

Top Weight Chart Bottom Weight Chart

Top Weight Chart

Top Weight of Drilled Ball

2.50 2.25 2.00 1.75 1.50 1.25 1.00 0.75 0.50 0.25 0.00
Side Weight of Drilled Ball
3.00 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.25 3.25 3.50 3.50 3.50 3.75 4.00 4.00
2.75 2.75 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.25 3.25 3.50 3.50 3.50 3.75 4.00
2.50 2.75 2.75 2.75 3.00 3.00 3.25 3.25 3.50 3.50 3.75 3.75
2.25 2.50 2.50 2.75 2.75 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.25 3.50 3.50 3.75
2.00 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.75 2.75 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.25 3.50 3.50
1.75 2.25 2.25 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.75 2.75 3.00 3.00 3.25 3.50
1.50 2.00 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.50 2.50 2.75 2.75 3.00 3.00 3.25
1.25 2.00 2.00 2.00 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.50 2.50 2.75 2.75 3.00
1.00 1.75 1.75 2.00 2.00 2.00 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.50 2.50 2.75
0.75 1.50 1.50 1.75 1.75 1.75 2.00 2.00 2.25 2.25 2.50 2.50
0.50 1.25 1.50 1.50 1.50 1.50 1.75 1.75 2.00 2.00 2.00 2.25
0.25 1.25 1.00 1.25 1.25 1.25 1.50 1.50 1.50 1.75 1.75 2.00
0.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.25 1.25 1.25 1.25 1.50 1.50
-0.25 0.50 0.50 0.75 0.75 0.75 0.75 0.75 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.25
-0.50 0.25 0.25 0.25 0.50 0.50 0.50 0.50 0.50 0.50 0.50 0.50
Distance from Center of Grip in Inches

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Bottom Weight Chart

Bottom Weight of Drilled Ball

-0.25 -0.50 -0.75 -1.00 -1.25 -1.50 -1.75 -2.00 -2.25
Side Weight of Drilled Ball
3.00 4.25 4.50 4.50 4.75 5.00 5.25 5.50 6.00 6.25
2.75 4.00 4.25 4.50 4.75 5.00 5.25 5.50 6.00 6.25
2.50 4.00 4.25 4.25 4.50 5.00 5.00 5.50 6.00 6.25
2.25 4.00 4.00 4.25 4.50 4.75 5.00 5.50 5.75 6.25
2.00 3.75 4.00 4.25 4.25 4.75 5.00 5.25 5.75 6.25
1.75 3.50 3.75 4.00 4.25 4.50 4.75 5.25 5.50 6.00
1.50 3.50 350 3.75 4.00 4.25 4.75 5.00 5.50 6.00
1.25 3.25 3.50 3.50 3.75 4.25 4.50 5.00 5.50 6.00
1.00 3.00 3.25 3.50 3.75 4.00 4.25 4.75 5.25 6.00
0.75 2.75 3.00 3.00 3.50 3.75 4.00 4.50 5.00 5.75
0.50 2.50 2.50 2.75 3.00 3.50 3.75 4.25 4.75 5.50
0.25 2.00 2.25 2.50 2.75 3.00 3.50 4.00 4.50 5.50
0.00 1.75 2.00 2.00 2.25 2.50 3.00 3.50 4.00 5.00
-0.25 1.25 1.50 1.50 1.75 2.00 2.25 2.75 3.50 4.50
-0.50 0.75 0.75 0.75 1.00 1.00 1.25 1.50 2.25 3.50
Distance from Center of Grip in Inches

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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Traumatize on March 22, 2005, 12:13:43 AM: How do you know what the correct hole-size to use is...Is there also a chart for that?
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Traumatize on March 22, 2005, 04:02:24 PM: I just drilled a Ravage today. Pin 2.5 inches from PAP, 1.75 inches above the midline. MB is 6.5 inches from PAP, left of midplane (thumb). The ball has a short pin, so it ended up with 2 ounces of side weight, and 2.75 ounces of top weight. My question is, where should I put the weight hole? I have been trying to figure out the target weighting system, but to no avail. I want the hole to be flare decreasing, so I should put it inside my VAL correct? My other question is once i've found a spot for the weight hole, how big of a hoel and how deep should I go? Incase you are wondering, there is no finger or thumb weight, as I drilled the fingers deeper. I also drilled the ring finger a half inch deeper than the middle to cut some side weight out. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Traumatize on March 22, 2005, 05:18:58 PM: Thanx Doc. But what will my ending weights be?
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Edited on 3/22/2005 6:13 PM
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: Traumatize on March 22, 2005, 05:23:38 PM: So how deep should I go to start with exactly 1 ounce? Or should I start the hole and re-weigh to see where i'm at, and go from there?
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Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: T-GOD on March 23, 2005, 01:20:01 PM: If you want to target weights perfectly, all you need is Lane #1's Gravity Balance System. This has been around for a long time.

Yes, ending weights do matter..!! By changing the ending weights, you will change the ball reaction/spin time, PSA, ect... =:^D
Title: Re: Target weighting
Post by: jimensminger on March 30, 2005, 06:59:21 AM: wow,........is all that information really necessary..?