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LuckyLefty

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This ball goes long and flips....NO it goes early and ARCS!
« on: December 13, 2007, 02:58:06 PM »
Such are the descriptions of Morich balls in many reviews out here!

Often for the same ball!

I am convinced with these immense and powerful cores combined with surface adjustments these balls of the Vanguard and Vanguard plus (EZ Rev) cores are SOOOO drilling specific that you can make them anything you want them to be!

Talking with a wonderful thrower of the ball He described his lots of length!
Me I had tons of midlane and then a lot of continuation.

We both noticed the difference we had in drilling.  He with his mass bias under his thumb had a nice straight shot up 9!  But there was an OB hanging close....

Me with a much stronger mass bias position had an area shot I adored!(my goal this year to learn how to create area!!) and learning to score again!

I am convinced that these powerhouse cures are the answers to a lot of bowling question  AND are VERY drilling dependant in the reactions they create!

Agree?

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Luckylefty
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Re: This ball goes long and flips....NO it goes early and ARCS!
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 01:39:43 AM »
I dont totally agree. Yes, they are very drill picky but, balls from various manufactures have their trademark brand reactions usually. The closest thing Morich has had to a flip reaction with any drill for me was the Ravage. It was still not a flip. A very hard arc is more like it. I have had many Morich balls with many different drills. None of them flip. Tons of mid lane and continuation is the name of their game and what they do for my game. I dont care how I drill one, it will never truly flip!
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charlest

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Re: This ball goes long and flips....NO it goes early and ARCS!
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 06:50:41 AM »
While MoRich balls cane be extremely versatile with the right drilling and surface, I have seen many diverse comments on every brand. People have different releases and ball speeds and use the same balls on different oil patterns. Then they ascribe different characteristics to a ball, based SOLELY on their own experience, thinking everybody in the world throws the ball exactly they do.

They call control balls flippy; they call skid/flip balls control balls and think they are right, when those balls have that characteristic ONLY for their delivery and ball speed, for their ONE drill on the one house shot blend on which they use that one ball.



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Re: This ball goes long and flips....NO it goes early and ARCS!
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2007, 06:58:32 AM »
My Nsane is pretty flippy but still controllabe. but yeah even my stuff I have drilled to flip really doesn't flip it is just really strong late on the lane even my Shock and Awe is drilled pin over bridge and it really doesn't flip.
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Re: This ball goes long and flips....NO it goes early and ARCS!
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2007, 07:26:30 AM »
I don't have any of them that just flips. The closest thing to that would be my TS&A's I have one polished that makes it go long and its a little weaker then my Sanded version both are stronger then any ball that I got and probably closest to what would be a flip because it makes its move late on the lane but instead of a flip its a VERY hard arc. The rest of morich stuff I have is arcy and very strong.
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Re: This ball goes long and flips....NO it goes early and ARCS!
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2007, 08:26:15 AM »
I've found that the Morich balls behave very different depending on how I release the ball.
With a firm straight wrist and a more up-the-back of the ball release, the balls display more of an arc reaction.
But, cup the wrist or cock the wrist and come around the side of the ball and it is a whole different reaction; definitely more of a flip reaction when you spin the ball vs rolling the ball.
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Re: This ball goes long and flips....NO it goes early and ARCS!
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2007, 08:45:07 AM »
I've seen flip out of their Awesome Flip and other Mo balls with top flip blocks added to the core(typically I don't like those setups of his).

My Awesome revs does not flip because of the particles but it is.....VERY angular!

My Total Annhilation with a pin next and over ring(4 1/2 to PAP) and mass bias strong...angular and Flip!  Big flip!  Traded!

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Luckylefty
PS my bowling partner with big hand and a higher pin on his Awesome Revs(strong mass bias also)(drilling is called assymetrical flip) gets(creates) a BIG Flip!  Without particle I believe it would be silly flip!  Again I believe these cores are VERY VERY drilling dependant.
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Re: This ball goes long and flips....NO it goes early and ARCS!
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2007, 09:59:55 AM »
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While MoRich balls cane be extremely versatile with the right drilling and surface, I have seen many diverse comments on every brand. People have different releases and ball speeds and use the same balls on different oil patterns. Then they ascribe different characteristics to a ball, based SOLELY on their own experience, thinking everybody in the world throws the ball exactly they do.

They call control balls flippy; they call skid/flip balls control balls and think they are right, when those balls have that characteristic ONLY for their delivery and ball speed, for their ONE drill on the one house shot blend on which they use that one ball.


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I have a number of different releases, axis rotations, and I can alter my speeds. I can rev up a ball real well too. They still dont flip in a true sense of the word flip. Great balls, they just dont truly flip. Unless, one is a spinner possibly?
The ONLY way IMO a Morich may flip is if you are on a mean wet/dry.

Edited on 12/14/2007 11:03 AM
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Re: This ball goes long and flips....NO it goes early and ARCS!
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2007, 04:33:42 AM »
quote:
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While MoRich balls cane be extremely versatile with the right drilling and surface, I have seen many diverse comments on every brand. People have different releases and ball speeds and use the same balls on different oil patterns. Then they ascribe different characteristics to a ball, based SOLELY on their own experience, thinking everybody in the world throws the ball exactly they do.

They call control balls flippy; they call skid/flip balls control balls and think they are right, when those balls have that characteristic ONLY for their delivery and ball speed, for their ONE drill on the one house shot blend on which they use that one ball.


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I have a number of different releases, axis rotations, and I can alter my speeds. I can rev up a ball real well too. They still dont flip in a true sense of the word flip. Great balls, they just dont truly flip. Unless, one is a spinner possibly?
The ONLY way IMO a Morich may flip is if you are on a mean wet/dry.

Edited on 12/14/2007 11:03 AM


Me neither; maybe we're doing something wrong.

What I was trying to say above was people ascribe everything they see in a ball to the ball itself and not to their release, ball speed, tilt, the drilling, the cover's surface, the lane oil, the lane surface, the weather, etc.
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