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lilphyzx

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Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« on: October 17, 2005, 05:36:18 AM »
Hey fellas which one of these will handle the most oil. I have both and really like both but am unsure to which will most likely be the stronger ball in oil. Can tthe weapon handle floods?

 

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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2005, 11:40:40 AM »
Come on fellas, no comments.

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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2005, 11:44:14 AM »
wasn´t it a similar post here yesterday?

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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2005, 11:50:31 AM »
Well I have not thrown a animal, but I just threw my WMB last night for the first time and WOW! This ball needs ALOT of oil. I was throwing on a league shot after they finished and I was literally throwing over the left gutter cap out to about 5-8 board and it came back with a strong arc every time. I will throw it on a fresh shot Thursday at league in another house that puts more oil out. When I got the ball the other day used, I put the surface back at OOB. I was also throwing my Shock and Awe drilled 3-3/8 X 3-3/8 with alot of polish and I was playing it over 3rd arrow out to 5-8 board. Hope this helps a little.

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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2005, 01:52:31 PM »
if drilled right, I think the WMB can handle a bunch of oil but it won't break off the lane......the Animal will handle a ton of oil and is probably a bigger ball on the backend ....and covers more total boards.

Drilled the same though .....I don't think you'd see that much of a difference on the lane...

I've had both and thrown both....like them both......Animal was drilled stronger than the WMB.  Used them both on a super slick house,....both covered the condition but just gave a slightly different look on the lane w/ the Animal starting sooner because of the drill....the WMB went a little further before moving.........

If you're really dealing w/ a flood....I'd prep the Animal for it....

Both versatile pieces though!  Mo designed the Morpheous core too
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lilphyzx

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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2005, 03:29:56 PM »
I like both balls. but was considering snatching another weapon and drilling it stronger but I already have enough particle balls for oil. Weapon, Arsenal aggressive, and animal. But was considering replacing the animal if the weapon were that strong. The weapon is my first Morich ball and im liking it.

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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2005, 03:45:46 PM »
If you already have both balls, throw them on the same pair of lanes and find out...

For me, the Animal is quite a bit stronger.  The Animal is drilled a little stronger - similar pin placements, but the MB on the Animal is around my VAL while the MB on the WMB is only an inch or two right of the thumb.  I can throw the WMB on a heavier house shot, but the Animal just burns up.

Even with a strong drilling and a dull surface, I would think the WMB would fall a little short on a flood.  Everyone has a different opinion on what a flood is.  I'm sure some people see some pretty heavy oil occasionally, but I'd guess only a very small percentage of people see a flood with any regularity
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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2005, 08:33:53 PM »
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If you already have both balls, throw them on the same pair of lanes and find out...

For me, the Animal is quite a bit stronger.  The Animal is drilled a little stronger - similar pin placements, but the MB on the Animal is around my VAL while the MB on the WMB is only an inch or two right of the thumb.  I can throw the WMB on a heavier house shot, but the Animal just burns up.

Even with a strong drilling and a dull surface, I would think the WMB would fall a little short on a flood.  Everyone has a different opinion on what a flood is.  I'm sure some people see some pretty heavy oil occasionally, but I'd guess only a very small percentage of people see a flood with any regularity
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With its 500 grit surface oob, there is no way the wmb can't handle a flood with the proper drilling. One of mine has been a saviour for me on out 50 foot sport pattern.

Your comparing one high load particle to another... both are going to work fine for what you are looking for and you will be very lucky if you find a shot often enough to warrant having both balls (unless drilled for a different condition).
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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2005, 08:46:03 PM »
Although I didn't try the WMB at 500 grit, I stand by my statement that it wouldn't handle (my definition of) a true flood.  I personally own two balls (see profile) that handle oil better than a WMB.  The WMB is a great piece for med/heavy oil or taming down a wet/dry shot since it's so smooth.

50' sport pattern doesn't provide me with much information.  One of the PBA majors (US Open?) was a 50' shot, but a light volume of oil.  Plus, a sport shot means that it must have clean backends, at least to start.  A lot of really heavy shots aren't stripped often enough, so you really need a ball with bite.  IMO, the WMB would fall short under these conditions.
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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2005, 02:48:13 PM »
I would have thrown both balls and see what they do but I often dont run into conditions where I need my animal or need to have both in the bag at the same time. At least not yet. And usually when I do, im just too lazy to run out to the car to see. I wasnt sure if the WMB was a high load particle or not. But I see it is. Its a very smooth rolling ball. I definitely like the hit.

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Re: Weapon of mass bias vs. Animal
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2005, 12:05:43 AM »
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Although I didn't try the WMB at 500 grit, I stand by my statement that it wouldn't handle (my definition of) a true flood.  I personally own two balls (see profile) that handle oil better than a WMB.  The WMB is a great piece for med/heavy oil or taming down a wet/dry shot since it's so smooth.

50' sport pattern doesn't provide me with much information.  One of the PBA majors (US Open?) was a 50' shot, but a light volume of oil.  Plus, a sport shot means that it must have clean backends, at least to start.  A lot of really heavy shots aren't stripped often enough, so you really need a ball with bite.  IMO, the WMB would fall short under these conditions.
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I honestly don't know what a flooded condition is if I'm not bowling on it. I have bowled on a 54 foot pattern, and it reacted exactly the same as the 50 footer. No idea on the volume (not a lane man and i'm not stupid enough to make a guestimate/ask the button pusher who doesn't program the maching), but if a shot that makes a guy with 500+ revs play a near frozen rope line with literally 2 boards of movement with a vertigo (another guy in league) isn't a flood, then I honestly should quit when I find a true flood.

I will say this: my diesel particle at 280 grit drilled leverage did move 2 boards more than my wmb. My wmb at 500 grit hit a lot harder though playing 4th arrow out to 15(left me, oh, 3 8-10's instead of 5 ).
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