Someone mentioned a chart on all this. Can u post a link to the chart. I need to really learn how to map stuff out correctly for my game instead of just slapping a drilling on them. IM to old school and need to refresh myself on updated cores/coverstocks and how they would work best for my game. I get lucky  every once in a while.

1:30 pin, 1/2 side not working anymore? :p

Righty,

Wrong. When their pap doesn't match up to the pap that they use in the drilling instructions, and they want it to look just like that, either you're going to piss the person off, lose a customer, and get a bad rep, or you can explain that they're just suggested, and that you will drill it personally, for their release, and it may not end up looking like that. Or, if you know that it's not the right drilling for their game, talk to them about why it isn't the best layout for them. If they still insist, drill it for them, but I used to mark on the sheet "Customer demanded layout".

It's the job of the pro shop operator to not let the customer shoot themselves in the foot easily.

For example, I had a guy come into my shop back when internet balls were just starting, and the Orange Piranha was the ball to have. 1 inch pin, 4oz of top. Guy wanted it to go long, snap hard. Told him that the drilling he wanted wasn't possible with the ball.

Another example. Guy came into another shop I ran, was throwing a Puma drilled with the pin next to ring, cg in grip. Wasn't working in the house my shop was in, so he wanted something that hooked lots more. I did drill him up a V2 with a modified rev leverage layout, and dude got mad that I put an extra hole in the ball. "No one else has extra holes in their balls!"

Doom. THATS WHAT I JUST SAID! LOL! I said to suggest something else but that customer comes in with a drill sheet and they're insistent on drilling 1 and you cant talk them out of it then you drill drilling 1. AND THEN, when they come to you and wonder why their $200 paperweight isnt hooking or puking 30ft downlane, you can inform them again that the layout doesnt match their PAP and the now have to plug it or polish the piss out of it. The bottom line is, I dont care who you are or where you come from you're going to lose customers. People who think they know more than you because theyve had a few "successes" in bowling so they think they are "successful" in bowling and they're going to challenge your knowledge eventhough they have no clue what they're talking about. You just have to do your best to deal with them. And if they dont come back then so be it. But as long as you're giving out quality then youll be successful.

Righty,

Wrong. When their pap doesn't match up to the pap that they use in the drilling instructions, and they want it to look just like that, either you're going to piss the person off, lose a customer, and get a bad rep, or you can explain that they're just suggested, and that you will drill it personally, for their release, and it may not end up looking like that. Or, if you know that it's not the right drilling for their game, talk to them about why it isn't the best layout for them. If they still insist, drill it for them, but I used to mark on the sheet "Customer demanded layout".

It's the job of the pro shop operator to not let the customer shoot themselves in the foot easily.

For example, I had a guy come into my shop back when internet balls were just starting, and the Orange Piranha was the ball to have. 1 inch pin, 4oz of top. Guy wanted it to go long, snap hard. Told him that the drilling he wanted wasn't possible with the ball.

Another example. Guy came into another shop I ran, was throwing a Puma drilled with the pin next to ring, cg in grip. Wasn't working in the house my shop was in, so he wanted something that hooked lots more. I did drill him up a V2 with a modified rev leverage layout, and dude got mad that I put an extra hole in the ball. "No one else has extra holes in their balls!"

@Doom- Funny I don't do that Billy Bob drill, u know what I mean "MagnoNuts".

Mo Pinel passed away in 2021 from Covid. He worked out of my bowling Sparetimes Hampton, Va for awhile