ok this is the absolute last post for me about this ballwhen i first got it out of box it was great then it seemed to get weaker and weaker. when i finaly got to play it in some heavy oil it looked like my white dot.I have cleaned,polished it resanded it to 400 and whalla,still nothing.point in case,i was bowling today on a less than fresh sport shot,but it was still pretty wet 10 to gutter,this ball slid and slid and even when i pointed at the pocket it slid. My layout as near as i can figure,4 in pin 3oz top,pin is at 4:00on the ring finger,cg 2 inches right of the thumb at 2:00, 1 1/8 weight hole 3.5inches on center and right of my thumb hole and directly inline with the thumb. the cg and pin line disects the thumb and weight hole line.15 lb ball. I am a med. speed low rev player,more comfortable playing out than down and in.rather stand 25 and feed the ball right to 10 than stand 10 and feed up 7 or 8.other balls i shot ,roto oracle ,same as the wmb, ebonite addiction gave me the best reaction,roto global assault ,and track assassin these three balls were polished and all out performed the wmb and oracle hands down, is it me or is something wrong with this picture, my heavy oil balls slide and my medium oil balls react as i would expect the heavy oil balls to, does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions or help in general.