Author Topic: Jackal Carnage (Read 15089 times)

BallReviews-scodaddy21 · « **on:** January 19, 2016, 01:49:11 PM »

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Description: The Motiv Jackal Carnage is a powerful solid ball that has big hook potential, awesome control, and great continuation on heavy oiled lanes. This ball strength is achieved by combining the asymmetric Predator core with the Coercion XFS Reactive cover and finishing it with a 3000 Grit LSS. The cover and finish create the traction on heavy oil that produce a powerful and controlled smooth shape down lane. The core's low RG and high differential helps the ball read the lane even through the heavy oil. The Jackal Carnage is a great match for high speed or low rev bowlers and for tournament bowlers facing fresh heavy oil.

Motiv Jackal Carnage Ball Specs:

- Color: Red/Red Solid All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Core: Predator
- Coverstock: Coercion XFS (Xtreme Friction Solid)
- Factory Finish: 3000 Grit Laser Scan Sanded
- Reaction: Smooth motion
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.46**
- Differential (Diff): 0.060**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Recommended Lane Condition: Heavy Oil
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal

MOTIVmags · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2016, 07:18:52 AM »

Jackal Carnage #Ontheprowl

Description: The Jackal Carnage is the second ball of the Jackal series with an all new coverstock, Coercion XFS Reactive. The inside however, utilizes the same successful Asymmetrical Predator Core that was found in the original Jackal and discontinued Raptor series.

Reaction: I tend to really like asymmetrical pieces, especially with solid covers, so I was excited for this release...The Jackal Carnage is the most hook I've ever had in my hands. The only downfall I see in asymmetrical balls is they limit how deep I can play because they tend to get so forward when exiting the pattern, in which causes carry issues. The Jackal Carnage out of the box hooks very soon, but it does not stop when it's time to read the middle and back part of the lane. The continuation of this ball is unbelievable for having such a strong arcing motion. Layout #1 60X5.5X35 (Pin up) is straighter through the front and had a controlled change in direction. Still plenty strong and plenty early and the better choice for me on house patterns, although it still forced me to play pretty deep. Layout #2 45X5X65 P3 Hole (Pin down) started much sooner in the front and middle part of the lanes with a smoother arcing motion, but still again, very continuous. I can see this ball being utilized more on tougher patterns and actually opening them up a little when they are flatter without sacrificing carry.

Comparisons: Everything else in my bag hooks less than the Jackal Carnage. To put it in perspective, even the original Jackal was 4-5 boards less than the Carnage. It also has more shape down lane than a Forza or Revolt Havoc, but the original Jackal still provides a faster response when encountering friction. I still also see a lot of use for my original Jackal though, as there will be times when the Jackal Carnage is just too early and too strong. With that, I can also say just as with all MOTIV pieces, the coverstocks are very adjustable.

Summary: Overall, this ball is going to force you left of everything you have. It will allow you to still control the lane and provide a great motion through the pins resulting in very good carry. I think continuation has become MOTIVâ€™s trademark shape.

Mike Magolan - MOTIV Staff/Turbo Staff/Boom Apparel Staff

toverbey · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2016, 11:04:25 AM »

Layout:
75 x 5 Â¾â€ x 35

If youâ€™ve been waiting for something that has a few more teeth than the original Jackal, your patience is being rewarded in the form of the new Jackal Carnage. This beast matches the proven Predator core (2.46RG, .060Diff) found in the original Jackal with the all-new Coercion XFS solid coverstock. When I first removed this ball from the packaging it was already rolling left, literally hooking out of the box. I put a slightly weaker layout on mine to make it a bit more versatile for the lower volumes I see on a weekly basis; even with this influence I can still see the high strength of this ball. On the fresh I see the ball starting to read the lane just past the arrows, starting its Â¾ of the ball flaring trying to find the friction. Once the ball finds (or even creates) a dry spot it goes into a very heavy roll; the breakpoint is ultra smooth and extremely controllable. This roll continues on through the pin deck with ease. I have found the most success with this having smaller laydown-crossing angles as a ball that hooks this early is not meant to loop the lane. My first set with the ball I shot 300-800 by playing out near the friction only covering two boards between my laydown and target at the arrows. If I missed in the ball would grab and tip just enough to carry light; if I missed a bit out the smoothness of the ball blended any â€˜jumpâ€™ and kept me high-flush instead of through the face. Over all if you need something that will give you the utmost control of the heaviest of volumes without sacrificing power grab yourself a Jackal Carnage and get #OntheProwl.

Trent Overbey
In the Zone Pro Shop
Motiv Staff
www.motivbowling.com

Dougbsu123 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 21, 2016, 11:30:36 AM »

DESCRIPTION

INNER CORE - Predator
COVERSTOCK - Coercion
FINISH - 3000 Grit LSS
RG RATING - 2.46 (15 lbs)
RG DIFFERENTIAL - .060 (15 lbs)
MB DIFFERENTIAL - .015 (15 lbs)
FLARE POTENTIAL - 7"+

REACTION

The Jackal Carnage has a unique motion that allows it to be used on a wide variety of conditions. The aggressive Coercion coverstock provides control in the mid-lane read and continuation through the pins. The Motiv staffers at the WSOB primarily used the Carnage on the fresh for ALL FOUR animal patterns. With patterns ranging from 35'-47' in length, it shows just how versatile the Carnage truly is.

COMPARISONS

The Jackal Carnage sits alone at the top of the chart. This ball is stronger than everything else in the line. In my video I compared the Carnage to the Revolt Havoc, Primal Rage Remix, and the original Jackal. The Carnage was easily 5+ boards stronger than the original Jackal, Primal Rage Remix, and 7-8+ boards stronger than the Revolt Havoc.
Motion wise, once again the Carnage sits alone. The original Jackal and Remix both read further down lane and respond faster to friction but provide less overall hook. The Havoc starts earlier than the Carnage and provides significantly less hook. The Carnage

SUMMARY

Right now I have two Jackal Carnage's. I have a pin down (75Â° x 4.5" x 75Â°), and a pin up (65Â° x 4.125" x 50Â°). The pin down Carnage is about 3-4 boards stronger than my pin up. It reads the lane a little earlier and still provides it's signature control and continuation. I have used them both on several different sport conditions (2013 USBC Masters pattern, 41' 1.5:1 ratio sport pattern, 35' Cheetah, 47' Scorpion). The Carnage does a great job of keeping you out of trouble on tighter patterns due to the control it provides. I usually prefer symmetrical cores but this ball is something different. If you want a ball that can read the lane in slop and be used on a WIDE variety of conditions, pick up a Jackal Carnage.

VIDEO

Douglas Anderson

MOTIV Staff

sportshot · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2016, 02:47:00 PM »

Ball Specs:
Motiv Jackal Carnage
Solid Reactive
3000 Grit LSS
Ball Specs: Asymmetric Predator Core
Layout 50 x 4-7/8 x 35 (no balance hole)

Bowler Specs:
Right Hand. PAP 4-3/4 Over 1/2 up
Rev Rate 300
Speed off hand 18

Review:
The New Motiv Jackal Carnage provides a ton of hook and hits hard! The Carnage is right up there in total boards, or more with the latest Hook Monsters from the other brands. I have always loved the Predator Core and have had good luck with it going back to the Raptor P7. This new cover provides early hook with a strong backend and exceptional carry. I normally drill a pin up and a pin down on a new release to judge reactions and the Carnage really surprised me. There is always a nice difference in motion due to the layouts but the difference was huge for me on this ball. I donâ€™t have a high Rev rate but I was 5-7 boards left with my feet throwing the Pin down Carnage compared to my pin up on fresh oil. The main difference I see between the Original Jackal and the Jackal Carnage is when they start to grab the lane. The Carnage is a few feet earlier which increases total hook but the surprise here is the ball does not quit. I can play up ten on a Sport Pattern and still not leave weak tens. The Jackal Carnage needs oil with the box finish. We have polished one here for kicks and it is cleaner through the front but still hooks a bunch. I think the polished Carnage looks great too! Another thing I have noticed about the new solid cover on the Carnage is it doesnâ€™t seem to glaze up after bowling. I just hit it with some cleaner and a towel and it looks fresh as the box finish.
This ball is on the top of the hook chart for Motiv and will not disappoint. The carnage looks great and is an easy recommendation to make for someone who needs a big hook ball. If you bowl in a flood, have a lower rev rate or fast speed you will love this ball.

Summary:
A ball that will hook with anything currently offered.
Excellent hit, carry and drive through the pins.
A must have for heavy oil.
This is a great piece to have if you bowl on wet lanes or longer patterns.

Glenn Wendel
PBA Member
Motiv Staff
Turbo Staff

gwendel@comcast.net
www.motivbowling.com
video link - https://youtu.be/MC-tlQBtwzA

jrob857 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 27, 2016, 06:57:21 AM »

LANE CONDITION

Length: 41 ft

Volume: medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

COMMENTS

Review:

The new Jackal Carnage is the latest release from Motiv Bowling. The Jackal Carnage is something like no other Motiv fans have ever seen. If you wanted hook, hook, and more hook but also control and continuation than the Jackal Carnage is the bowling ball for you. The Carnage is built by the Predator core and the new Coercion Reactive XFS coverstock and with that you get a bowling ball that hooks more than the original Jackal with more control and strong continuation through the pins. Like I said if you want hook then the Jackal Carnage is for you.

INNER CORE Predator
COVERSTOCK Coercion XFS Reactive
FINISH 3000 Grit LSS

Comments:

The original Jackal blew me away with it performance when it first was released and the Jackal Carnage is just a next step up. When I first through this piece while on a typical house shot, the Carnage was just blowing pins away and it just seemed that with all that hook potential the continuation was just out of this world. To me, the Jackal Carnage was smooth down lane and the control that this piece has is unbelievable. That combination plus with the hook potential and strong continuation should not work but it does with this piece. Higher rev players will love this piece on higher volume conditions and lower to medium players with love this piece both on sport and house shot conditions because what is stated above. This is another home run for Motiv Bowling.

Likes: Smooth downlane motion; very good control; strong continuation through the pins.

Dislikes: None.

I recommend the Motiv Bowling Jackal Carnage to types of bowlers.

Motiv Bowling and Realbowlerstape.com Staffer,
John Robertson
www.motivbowling.com

ROK (Real Old Kegler) · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2016, 03:16:56 PM »

BALL SPECS

Cover: Coercion XFS Reactive
Core: Predator (rg 2.46, diff 0.060, int.diff 0.015)
Box Finish: 3000 grit LSS
Ball Weight: 15,1 pounds
Pin Length: 3.8 inches
Top Weight: 3.0 ounces

DRILL PATTERN

Dual Angle: 45 x 3 1/2 x 25
Balance Hole: 1 1/2 inches below midline on VAL, 1 inch diameter x 3 inches deep

BOWLER STYLE

Hand: Right
Rev Rate: 275 rpm
Ball Speed: 17 mph
PAP: 4 7/8â€ lateral x 5/8â€ up
Axis Tilt: 17 degrees

SURFACE PREP

Grit: 3000 grit (Box Finish)
Type: Matte

LANE CONDITION

Length: 42 feet
Volume: 28 mls
Type: Typical House Shot

BALL REACTION

Midlane Read: Earliest
Breakpoint Shape: Strong Arc
Back End: Continuous

COMMENTS

The new Motiv Jackal Carnage is a high performance ball for heavier oil conditions.
By combining the proven asymmetrical Predator core (2.46rg, 0.060diff, 0.015int.diff) with the solid XFS reactive coverstock (finished at 3000 LSS), the resulting ball delivers an early midlane read with a strong arcing breakpoint shape and aggressive continuation through the pindeck. The Jackal Carnage is a great choice on Challenge/Sport patterns with heavier oil volumes or on the THS when the edge becomes too wet/dry to have predictable ball reaction and a move into the center of the lane with the target and breakpoint is necessary. With my speed and rev rate, the Jackal Carnage is four boards deeper with the feet and two boards deeper at the arrows when compared to the original Jackal with a similar drilling and surface.

ROK (Real Old Kegler) Motiv Staff

Jackal Carnage VIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGq4wKs_b-Y

Wya_Rya · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2016, 03:19:17 PM »

If you want to talk about the name of a bowling ball spelling out what itsâ€™ intend will be on the lane, the Jackal Carnage does just that. In terms of what this piece does on the lane and when it makes contact with the pin, it causes complete carnage! When a piece is introduced with the type of power like this; that is the least you can expect right?! Although, this is a follow up to the already powerful Jackal, the Carnage is a whole new breed of its own. The Carnage contains more hook potential, but yet displays unexpected control and continuation down lane.
This has been a ball I have been waiting on for some time now I must admit. What I love about the Carnage is the fact that itâ€™s consider almost a re-birth of the Raptor Talon but much stronger and aggressive on the lanes. The Carnage actually provides me with the aggressive cover stock and heavy core that I like but more on the smoother side where the original Jackal, being a pearl, was more angular down lane. Not that I dislike angular ball motion, a smooth arch/reaction has always been by bread and butter. I actually have by Carnage drilled similar to my original Jack, which placed the PIN right above the bridge of my fingers and the CG and MASS being kick out to the left. Now, when rolling them both at the same target and feet position, the original does seem stronger based off the ball motion. When you take into consideration the type of ball reactions, the original is more angular down lane. Once I began toying around with the different lines and angular, the true nature of the Carnage was able to shine through as the ball began grabbing the lane as if it had teeth where the original would then to go a pitch longer down lane and the corners began to appear.
If you need an aggressive cover and heavy weight block, the Carnage delivers. If you need high hook potential but prefer control and continuation, the Carnage delivers in all 3 departments! What are you waiting for?!?! The moon is out and the lanes are waiting, itâ€™s time to go #ONTHEPROWL!
Ryan Wyandt
MOTIV Staff Member
West Lawn, PA
rwyandt869@gmail.com
Follow me on Twitter: @rwyandt869

The SuperHitMan · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2016, 01:36:08 PM »

Rev Rate:420
Axis Tilt:20
Axis Rotation: 45
Ball Speed:17
PAP Measurements: 4 1/8

Description: The Carnage is the second coming of the Jackal series. It comes wrapped in the new Coercion XFS Reactive coverstock. Underneath the skin of this animal is the successful Predator weight block which is inside the original Jackal and the now discontinued Raptor series.

Out of box surface: 3000 Grit LSS

Layout: 40 x 41/2 x 45
Ball Reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyivvkEvA18&feature=youtu.be

Comparisons

Jackal: The original does not grab as early and hooks 5 boards less overall than the Carnage; in terms of backend the original has more muscle. In terms of overall hook the Carnage has more muscle than the original. The original Jackal responds quicker to friction than the Carnage as it is a pearl, the Carnage in the friction for myself was too early and too strong for my liking. Both are meant for the heavy oil however I give the nod to the Carnage because of the Coercion XFS Reactive cover, overall the cover is stronger than the Turmoil HFP Reactive on the Jackal.

Primal Rage Remix: In terms of length and backend reaction the Remix leads in the desired categories, in terms of ball reaction the Remix is more angular than the Carnage as well. Although in its own right the Remix produces a decent amount of hook, but not as much as the Carnage.

Revolt Havoc: I love the Revolt Havoc for its continuation and the overall roll it provides, in my opinion the Havoc and Carnage are meant to play off of each other although they differ in ball motion. In terms of length I feel the Carnage is earlier because of the cover, in terms of hook the Carnage provides more overall than the Havoc. Iâ€™ve had success with using both in heavy oil but the Carnage allowed me to open up the lane more, in terms of digging into the lane it doesnâ€™t get any better than the Carnage.

Summary: Since the discontinuation of the Raptor Talon Iâ€™ve been waiting for its rightful replacement and the Carnage is just that and more. The Coercion cover is bigger, stronger, and digs into the pattern from start to finish in a way the Talon did not. Imagine a snow tire with chains on it that is the Jackal Carnage, traction and continuation in heavy oil from start to finish. I could play anywhere on the lane with this ball as long as there was enough oil to sustain it, the Carnage needs oil because that is what its meant for. If you have a spot in bag that you need to fill for heavier patterns I ask you to take a look at the Carnage, I can promise you it is worth your time because there is nothing better than causing carnage throwing a Carnage.

Your game will thank you for it.

K.C.White II
Motiv Staff
Whybowl Staff

Sgreiner01 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2016, 01:27:16 PM »

I drilled two Jackal carnage.

Pin up 45x5x40
This layout allows me to play close to the THS edge. With the 5" pin to pap I can play more down and in. Coming of the oil it is a much more smoother backend reaction than the original Jackal.

Pin down 55x5x65
This layout is much stronger in the mid lane than the pin up with strong continuation. On a THS it allows me to move deeper on the lane and create a stronger arcing angle to the pocket.

The Jackal Carnage is very versatile and will fit in most bowlers games.

Scott Greiner
Motiv Staffer
10 In The Pit Pro Shop

Kegeler51 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2016, 02:30:57 PM »

Bowler Info
- RH
- 325 Rev Rate
- 15.5 MPH
- 17* Tilt
- 45* rotation

Ball Info

Motiv Jackal Carnage Ball Specs:

- Color: Red/Red Solid
- Core: Predator
- Coverstock: Coercion XFS (Xtreme Friction Solid)
- Factory Finish: 3000 Grit Laser Scan Sanded
- Reaction: Smooth motion
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.46
- Differential (Diff): 0.060
- 15 lbs

- Drilled 80 X 5 X 40
- No weight hole
- Out of box Surface

Conditions Tested

- HPL's Lanes on a 47 ft Sport Shot
- Anvil lanes on a house shot

Review

The new Jackal Carnage is Motiv's newest heavy oil ball. It's earlier and smoother that the original Jackal. On the 47ft house shot the ball gets into an heavy roll and the carry has been very good. My rev rate doesn't let me hook the ball much on this length of a pattern but that has not effected my scores.

On the house shot it blended out the pattern. It gives me miss room left and right with carry. I was able to use the Carnage for the first 2 games then switched to the Havoc for game 3. The continuation on this ball is a plus with those of us with avg rev rates.

Anyone who is speed dominate or speed and rev matched can use the Carnage as their starting ball. Rev dominate player may need to change the surface if you have don't have enough oil.

Rob Lange
Motiv Staff

rickzakrajsek · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2016, 08:56:22 AM »

LANE CONDITION

Jackal Carnage
This Heavy oil ball is a beast. If you have been looking for something to read the lane under the heaviest of oil conditions the Jackal Carnage is the ball for you. Using my standard pin up and pin down layouts the Carnage provided very repeatable reaction in the early to mid lane area . The key to me was the Carnages ability to still move off the spot as it exited the pattern and the incredible continuation we have seen from the Motiv product line. THS bowlers who just live to play in will love this ball as it will allow you to get in deep with the Big boys as it provides the traction you will need to get through the heavy fronts and middles usually seen in most THS. This ball fits both high speed and low rev players and turns them into HOOK monsters. The strong predator core and Coercion XFS Reactive coverstock are a perfect combination to give you that extra advantage early in the block or on sport or heavy oil patterns. If you donâ€™t have one of these in your arsenal you are missing that one piece that will get you out fo the block sprinting!!!!Get Motivated and get a Jackal Carnage NOW!

COMMENTS

Likes:

Dislikes:

PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS

Mohrevs · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2016, 12:44:26 PM »

Jackal Carnage,
I drilled my Carnage 45 X 4.5 X 60 Pin under bridge to utilize the core and cover combination. I believe this ball is well suited for players who need a ball that will allow them to play straighter angles on heavy oil or long sport patterns. This ball will play well for players with smaller rev rates as the core revs easily and maintains continuation through out the lane. This ball will also fit those with higher balls speeds and see a need for something that will give them strong heavy roll to play in the puddle. The intended use for this ball is matched well for the line up as a whole. If you need more ball than the Havoc and less down lane motion than the original Jackal. This ball is for you. Where the Havoc has some trouble with the larger volumes of oil, The Carnage will not have an issues with this at all. As a player with a heavier hand a bit slower ball speed this Carnage does not see the lane all that often. When the Carnage has seen the lane the over all motion is one that leads me to believe this ball belongs in the bag for those times when over all control is needed on longer heavier patterns. The strong predictable seems to be a must for those who need control on all the sport patterns and tournament conditions we face now a days.

Clayton Mohr
Motiv Staff

Danknowlton · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2016, 11:39:15 AM »

LANE CONDITION

Length: 43'

Volume: medium-heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

COMMENTS

Likes:Layout used for this review. 70 x 5 x 35. For those looking for a earlier roll to the previous and extremely successful Jackal, your wait is over. This solid version of the Jackal is earlier and more aggressive in oil than the original. This allows me to play inside of most of my competitors and stay ahead of the transition. On nights that I expect the lanes to transition into a wet/dry condition based on our competition this is the first ball out of my bags. Allows me to smooth out the wet/dry and stay in the pocket the entire night.

Dislikes:there are better options in the Motiv line for light oil THS or sport conditions.

PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS

fishin 4 strikes · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2016, 07:30:01 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjFXmta4pZ4

The Jackal carnage has moved to the top of the chart on Motiv's most smoothest overall hooking ball. While this ball definitly fits in that spot it is so much more. If you are looking for a ball that will help you play more in the "puddle" on the house shot than this the ball you are looking for. If you are needing a ball for heavy volume sport conditions then this ball going to be a perfect fit.
With some surface changes and a weaker drilling the Carnage has been a big bonus for me on the medium patterns also. The amazing part of the Caranage is how versatile this ball is. The Carnage has been good playing by the gutter, playing a tighter inside line and everywhere in between. Because of the smoothness of this ball I have to keep my angles tighter for my best results.
The video of this ball was shot on the pattern Mexico City on DBA Lane surface. The layout of the ball used in the video is 55x4x25
Ball speed. 15.5
Tilt. 12
Rotation. 45
Rev rate. 350
Anthony Jordan
Motiv staff

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