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Octane Burn
« on: November 09, 2015, 03:17:09 PM »
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Description: The Octane Burn from Motiv was designed for light to medium oil lanes and offers length with a powerful backend reaction. This ball has the Helix SFP Reactive coverstock and is finished with a 5500 grit LSP finish.  This combination is clean with a good reaction to friction while being angular with a smooth transition and control.  The Quadfire core helps provide length and good track flare.  For most bowlers this is a great go to ball when the lanes start to break down.  Competitive bowlers will enjoy the consistency this ball provides as well as the controlled transition at the backend.

Motiv Octane Burn Ball Specs:

- Color: Blue Flame Pearl (NeoMark Color: Yellow Pearl/Silver Pearl)
- Weight Block: Quadfire
- Coverstock: Helix SFP Reactive
- Finish: 5500-grit LSP
- RG: 2.55 (15# ball)
- Diff: 0.043 (15# ball)
- Reaction:  Length with strong backend
- Recommended Lane Conditions: Light to Medium Oil

 

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 08:04:18 AM »

Description: The Octane Burn uses the same Quadfire core as the original Octane, but with the brand new Helix SFP coverstock. The addition of the Octane Burn has filled MOTIV’s slot for an angular, light to medium oil ball, which mean it’s now available at a cheaper price point.

Reaction: The Octane Burn is a couple feet earlier than the original Octane. It is also a little slower to respond to friction, allowing for a little more control down lane. However, the hook potential is very similar between the Octane Burn and the original Octane, it’s just the shape that has been altered (but is a big difference). It’s definitely not a ball that I would use on the fresh for most patterns as it is just not strong enough and we have other pieces made for the fresh. I do however like it when I need to stay a little closer to the friction and still get the ball to have really good continuation.
 
Comparisons: In my video I only compared the Octane Burn against two other balls currently in production. The first was the Venom Panic, which is noticeably earlier and more forward when exiting the pattern compared to the Octane Burn. Next, the Graffiti Tag is cleaner than the Octane Burn and provides a faster response to friction. Although the Graffiti Tag may appear to hook more at times it is because of how much stronger down lane the Graffiti Tag is. One more additional note, although not compared in the video this release will be a great transition piece when the Venom Shock is too early and too strong. I think because of the popularity of the Venom Shock this will put in perspective where this new release fits.

Summary: This is a modified version of the original Octane. For those who felt that the original Octane wasn’t reliable enough or couldn’t be thrown on a wide variety of conditions will appreciate the modifications on the Octane Burn. It will give you plenty of length and control on patterns with lots of friction.
 
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« Last Edit: November 23, 2015, 02:26:24 PM by MOTIVmags »

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2015, 10:06:19 AM »
Layout: 65x41/2x75

Length: 41 and 44

Volume: 26

Type (THS)

Left hand

Tweener

Likes: the octane burn is becoming my favorite THS ball. With the pin down and 1000 surface it is one hard hitting ball. The burn is clean through the front part of the lanes with an angular continuation ball motion down lane. This ball is very versatile on most THS. It works well playing any angle on the lane but a tighter angle to the pocket works best for my game. The Octane Burn should definitely be in your arsenal.

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2015, 01:54:57 PM »


This ball is the newest introduction into the Octane line of bowling balls. The MOTIV Octane Burn features the Helix SFP Reactive coverstock combined with the Quadfire core. It's super clean the front of the lane and OMG can you say strong backend reaction. And of course, it has the continuation that has come to be expected from MOTIV bowling balls

It will be a great fit in your bag on light to medium oil. It’s clean, strong and continuous. What else could you want from a ball on the burn.

My Octane Burn is laid out with the pin above the ring fingers (close to the center line), the cg basically stacked (just a slight shift right) and has no extra hole. This ball is not afraid to be thrown right and have plenty of backends to recover. I can see this being my go to ball on the burn when opening the lane up becomes required.

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2015, 10:42:39 AM »
Rev Rate:420
Axis Tilt:20
Axis Rotation: 45
Ball Speed:17
PAP Measurements: 4 1/8

Description

The latest weaponry out of Muskegon is the Octane Burn, wrapped in the Helix SFP Reactive coverstock and with a 5500 polished finish this weaponry is built to play the burn. Underneath the cover is the proven Quadfire core that has been featured in the past release such as the QZRed, QZPurple, QZBlue, Backdraft, Thrash, Thrash Frenzy, and the Octane.

Out of box surface: 5500 Grit LSS

Layout: 4 x 4 1/2 (no weight hole)

Ball Reaction

The Octane Burn has a very slow response to the friction, the benefit of this is that it grants the bowler reasonable control when playing on high friction surfaces. The difference between the Octane and the Octane Burn is that the Burn provides a better controlled motion down lane; the original Octane provided a quicker response to the friction.


Comparisons

Apex Ascent

The Apex is smaller than the Octane Burn in terms of overall hook and backend presence, in terms of length they are even. I admired the reaction the Apex gave me when it encountered the friction; there were times when I wanted a bigger backend presence out of it when it was time for me to move left.  Both of them are angular but in terms of facing up upon exiting the pattern, the Burn was both quicker and stronger than the Apex.

Graffiti Tag

In terms of length the Tag is longer than the Octane Burn and has a bigger backend motion as well, the difference between the two is the ball motion as a whole.  Due to the Tag providing a faster response upon encountering friction you would think that it hooks more than the Octane Burn but it doesn’t, the Tag just has a stronger ball motion down lane.  Upon encountering friction the Tag tends to make a sharp move towards the pocket, the Octane Burn is the opposite making a controlled move to the pocket upon encountering friction.


Venom Panic

The Venom Panic starts up earlier than the Octane Burn and has a shade less overall hook than the Burn, the difference between the two is that they do when encountering friction. In the friction because the Panic is earlier than the Burn I find myself moving left to keep the ball from setting up too early, with the Burn it is the opposite. In the friction I can move further right and play in the burn preferred to bouncing the Burn off the dry moving left.


Summary

The purpose of this ball is listed in its namesake, the Octane Burn is meant for the burn itself.  As with the Apex and the Tag when using it on the fresh I would start out playing right until encountering the burn itself, at that point I would start to move left. I don’t have to do this with the Octane Burn; I can play in the burn instead of playing into it.

To anyone that felt the original Octane wasn’t versatile enough will immediately see the difference in the Octane Burn, the Octane Burn will give you a lot of length and control on high friction patterns. The Octane Burn is smooth like the Tag but stronger than the Apex Ascent encountering the friction; providing a moderate controlled ball motion from start to finish. 

I have had a lot of success with this ball playing straighter and closing my angles without the sacrifice of carry, it’s given me plenty of length and control on high friction patterns playing any angle on the lane.  Motiv has given the phrase “Feel the burn” a whole new meaning and I encourage you to do yourself a favor and do just that.

Your game will thank you for it.

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2015, 05:56:33 PM »
BALL SPECS

Cover: Helix SPF (Pearl)
Core: Quadfire (rg 2.55, diff 0.043, int.diff 0)
Box Finish: 5500 grit LSP
Ball Weight: 15.1 pounds
Pin Length: 3.1 inches
Top Weight: 3.1 ounces

DRILL PATTERN

Dual Angle: 70 x 4 3/4 x 35
Balance Hole: None

BOWLER STYLE

Hand: Right
Rev Rate: 275 rpm
Ball Speed: 17 mph
PAP: 4 7/8” lateral x 5/8” up
Axis Tilt: 17 degrees

SURFACE PREP

Grit: 5500 grit (Box Finish)
Type: Polish

LANE CONDITION

Length: 42 feet
Volume: 28 mls
Type: Typical House Shot

BALL REACTION

Midlane Read: Clean
Breakpoint Shape: Strong Corner
Back End: Good Energy through Pins

COMMENTS

The Octane Burn is very clean through the front and mid-lane as you would expect from a ball designed to play on the “Burn” (appreciable friction in the mid-lane).  Coroners well in response to friction without being jumpy off the spot.  Not as angular as the Original Octane, but still is VERY energetic through the pins.

The Octane Burn in comparison to the Original Octane and the Graffiti Tag with similar Drill angle of 70 degrees, VAL angle of 35 degrees and progressively longer Pin to PAP distances of 4 1/4 inches Octane, 4 3/4 inches Octane Burn and 5 inches Graffiti Tag, all balls with out of box surface, shows the Original Octane 2 boards deeper with the feet and 1 board deeper with the target at the arrows vs the Octane Burn.  The Octane Burn played 4 boards deeper with the feet and 2 boards deeper with the target at the arrows vs the Graffiti Tag.  A touch of surface on the Original Octane should give a nice separation between the two Octanes.

In summary, the NEW Octane Burn is clean through the front and mid-lane, corners well without being jumpy and holds energy to CRUSH the pins.

Motiv Octane Burn VIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5TCge85m1U

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 08:34:20 AM »
Description:  The Octane Burn is the newest ball from Motiv bowling.  It uses the Quadfire core from the original Octane along with a new  Helix SFP(Skid Flip Pearl) Reactive coverstock. This coverstock is at 5500 grit laser scan polish out of the box.  This symmetric core has an RG of 2.55 and a diff of .043 for the 15lb version. 

Comments: The Octane Burn is designed to be used in light-medium oil conditions. The Octane Burn is a improved version of the Octane in that it is not as wet/dry sensitive as the original was.  With the original Octane, the ball was clean but it could be very angular off the spot once it hit friction.  Motiv has taken that solid core and wrapped a new and improved coverstock to it.  This allows the ball to be clean, read the midlane a little earlier then the Octane,  and provide a smoother, more controlled shape down lane.  It will be a great piece to match up with the Venom Shock.  Once the pattern breaks down and your Shock is too early a step down to the Octane Burn would be a great fit.  This more controlled backend reaction will allow you to stay in this ball longer than most other pieces in the line.
 
Summary:  Motiv continues to produce some of the strongest hitting balls on the market.  The lineup offers a variety of ball motions for all types of players.  The Octane Burn is a great piece to switch to once the typical house shot breaks down.  It is cleaner then the Redline and Venom Shock and more controlled down lane once it sees friction.    It's a ball that should be in your bag for those later games in league or on burn shots in more competitive environments. 

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 12:03:07 PM »
Layout:
   40 x 4 ¼ x 40


If you need a ball that can easily glide down the lane and finsh strongly on the backend then look no further than the Octane Burn.  By wrapping the high RG Quadfire core (2.55RG, .043Diff) in the brand new Helix SFP Reactive coverstock we have a blend of the original Octane’s backend motion and greater control at that spot.  I was a bit aggressive with my angles so that I could get the ball to rev up a bit sooner for me, to give me a stronger midlane read before dry and this ball does not disappoint.  Even though I can see it rapidly flaring in the mids it still effortlessly glides through the fronts and mids; so far this trait has been shown anywhere from straight up on the fresh to playing left of fifth arrow on some extreme burn.  Friction is this ball’s friend.  Once you find the dry the Burn reads hard without being snappy or overly jumpy.  This motion towards the pocket does not stop once it gets to the pins as it drives through to the pit.  I have also noticed that this ball is very good at keeping the pins low; more pins around the deck translates to better carry.  In my bag this iteration of the Octane fits extremely well between Redline/Shock and the Tag.  If it’s dry that you need to combat, pick up an Octane Burn and #LightEmUp!

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2015, 12:55:39 PM »
Lane Conditions: Medium-Light Oil
Typical Conditions: Variety of Shots
Type of Lane: All Wood
What part of the lane did you play? Second Arrow
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Factory/Box
Likes: Clean with control
Dislikes:

DESCRIPTION

INNER CORE - Quadfire
COVERSTOCK - Helix SFP Reactive
FINISH - 5500 Grit Laser Scan Polished
RG RATING - 2.55 (15 lbs)
RG DIFFERENTIAL - .043 (15 lbs)
FLARE POTENTIAL - 4"+


REACTION

The Octane Burn excels when the pattern starts to break down. It has a fast but more controllable motion down lane than its predecessor. It's versatile in the fact you can play up the lane without it jumping too hard off the spot. When you have to move in and increase your angles, it has the continuation necessary to slap out the corner pins.



COMPARISONS


The Octane Burn overall hook puts it in between the Forza Redline and Venom Panic. It gets further down lane than both of those balls and has a fast response to friction. Compared to the Graffiti Tag, it starts earlier, is more controllable, and has more overall hook. The Burn allows you to play deeper inside than you would with the Panic because of the length it gives you. In comparison to the original Octane, it doesn't cover as many boards, starts earlier, and is more controllable which allows it to be used on a wider variety of patterns. The Octane Burn is a perfect fit when you need less than the Redline and more than the Panic.



SUMMARY

I drilled my Octane Burn pin under middle finger (75°x 4.5" x75°) and threw it with a variety of different surfaces to see how it rolled. I put 1000, 2000, 2000 with polish, 3000, 4000, and box finish. I like to throw new equipment with different surfaces because at some point in time we always alter the surface. I bowl on Synthetic and wood lanes and the happy medium I found that works on both house patterns was 2000 (no polish). For me, box finish was a bit to fast and temperamental for my liking. To be fair, the only ball I throw with polish is my Tag. Everything else I have from 1000-4000. I prefer to have a bit of surface as it suits my game better. Below is my ball motion video. I compared the Octane Burn to the Graffiti Tag, Venom Panic, and Forza Redline.




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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015, 04:41:54 PM »
I drilled my MOTIV Octane Burn in my tried and true layout, 90* x 5” x 45* and took it to the lanes. The ball is designed for Medium to Light oil and is clean in the fronts and delivers strong back-end motion. Normally “skid-flip” balls can be a little touchy when it comes to speed control, due to the quick response to friction. I was really surprised with the Octane Burn…  it has a very consistent off the breakpoint – even when I didn’t release the ball well. I was also surprised with the versatility. It works great on a house shot (where I normally use a more even rolling ball to smooth it out a bit), as well as sport patterns of varying lengths when I need to move in when the pattern opens up.

Here is the link to my ball reaction video. I compare the Burn to the Ascent, Graffiti Tag, Forza Redline, Revolt Havoc & Primal Rage Remix on the Bourbon Street Pattern:


The Octane Burn is a fantastic choice when the lanes break down.  I feel confident when I need to open up my angles because it is so reliable off the breakpoint. But this ball is more than that – it is an all-around great performer.

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2015, 11:58:13 AM »
OCTANE BURN
The Motiv Octane burn is an interesting ball. Geared for Medium to Light oil conditions this ball is amazing on the THS as well as matches up well with later in the block on shorter oil PBA conditions. Its ability to get through the front part of the lane and extended length make this ball PREFECT for those patterns and bowlers that need added length with the recovery and reaction down lane.
League bowlers will be thrilled with this balls ability to read the drier part of the lane with great consistency and repeatable reaction. No more wet dry reaction to worry about as the Octane burns length and ability to push through the dry boards allows many different attack angles without early roll or overreaction!
This is definitely a ball everyone should have and should be part of the natural progression for more skilled players as the lanes begin to break down.  Certainly a go to ball and one most everyone is sorely missing from their arsenal. Don’t get left behind when the pattern breaks down!  Get the OCTANE BURN…You wont be disappointed!
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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2015, 08:36:41 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 41 ft

Volume: Light - Medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Review:

The Octane Burn is the latest release from the wonderful line of Motiv Bowling products. The new Octane Burn brings together the Ouadfire core we have seen in many releases and more recently the original Octane and parterning up with the Quadfire core is the new Helix SFP Reactive coverstock. This combination provides more control downlane and backend lane motion when the lanes have more friction on them. When the lanes are hooking, this is the piece to go to, the Octane Burn by Motiv Bowling.

INNER CORE         Quadfire
COVERSTOCK       Helix SFP Reactive
FINISH                5500 Grit Laser Scan Polished

Comments:

When the Octane Burn was announced I knew this was going to be a nice piece in my bag and boy was I right. I was looking for something that I need more control when the lanes are breaking down and the Octane Burn has fit the bill. I have never seen a bowling ball that is so controllable both in the midlane and in the backend before when there is high friction in the lanes. When the lanes are hooking I know I can switch to this piece both on house and sport conditions. And what I also love about this piece is usually when the lanes are hooking you will lose power in the backend and be corner pin city but not the burn. This ball still hits the pins like a truck and that’s what I love about this piece the most. Lower rev players will like this piece when the outsides dry up and need the control when your not comfortable moving in and medium to higher rev players will love this piece on most THS shots and higher friction conditions,

Like: Controllable midlane and backend motion; strong continuation through the pins.

Dislike: None

I recommend this piece to all styles of bowlers.

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2015, 09:15:04 PM »
Description: The Octane Burn uses the same Quadfire core as the original Octane, but has a brand new Helix SFP coverstock. This addition has filled MOTIV’s slot for an angular, light to medium oil ball.

Reaction: I have found that the Octane Burn is earlier than the original Octane and it is also a little faster to respond to friction, allowing for a little more control down lane. It’s definitely not a ball that I use to start a league or tournament, since it isn't strong enough. I have had success when I need to try and stay close to the friction (before I try to really open my angles) and I can stay firm knowing I won't throw it past the spot.
 
Summary: For those who felt that the original Octane got you in jail more often than not, this will be a great upgrade.

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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2015, 01:37:56 PM »
I have my octane burn drilled with a pretty basic layout.  The pin is above the bridge with the cg at about 45 degrees.  I have not compared the two octanes next to one another to see how much stronger one is from another.  But motion wise the burn seems to pick up better in the midlane but has a noticeably smoother reaction at the back of the pattern, which would allow you to use it on a bigger variety of pattern.  I took the surface of the ball down a little bit to help the ball pick up a little earlier because of where I am.  I think this ball is more versatile than the original because the backend is a lot smoother and more predictable. 
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Re: Octane Burn
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2015, 06:54:35 PM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length: 3.1"

Starting Top Weight: 2.9 ounces

Ball Weight: 16 lb, 1 oz.


DRILL PATTERN

50 x 5 x 30 with no extra hole


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: 400 RPM

Ball Speed: 19 MPH

PAP/Track: 4 3/8 left, 7/8 up


SURFACE PREP

Grit: 2000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polish


LANE CONDITION

Length: 41 ft.

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


BALL REACTION

Length: More length than the Venom Panic and Venom Shock

Back End: Fastest response to friction of any light oil balls in the line

Overall Hook: Less total hook than the Forza balls, and Venom Shock, but more than the Venom Panic

Midlane Read: Slightly more mid lane than its predecessor, the Octane, with just a slightly slower response to friction

Breakpoint Shape: Hockey stick type shape, long and angular


COMMENTS

Likes: Clean skid through the heads, no problem overcoming a higher friction environment. Quick response to friction which is ideal when you're playing steep angles through the front. The Burn however, is an excellent choice for those who wish to stay further right and challenge the friction.

Dislikes: Not recommended for fresh conditions in my opinion. Way too erratic and unpredictable. Too much volume is this ball's short coming.

Overall: I found this ball most beneficial on my house condition after there was some play on the lanes and a defined hook spot was created. I see this piece being an asset for any bowler who competes in a 2nd or 3rd shift league because of how easy it gets down the lane. I threw the ball at box finish initially and with the polished surface I wasn't really liking what I saw. I scuffed the ball with a 2000 grit pad and I still get so much length but the break point is so much more predictable and just looks better to my eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anOAjZLj22c


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