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Thrash
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
- COLOR:  Deep Ocean Blue
- INNER CORE: Quadfire
- COVERSTOCK:  Z-Max Solid Reactive
- FINISH:  1000 Wet Sand
- RG: 15#-2.55  
- RG DIFFERENTIAL: 15#- .043
- RECOMMENDED LANE CONDITION:  Medium Oil
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- DESCRIPTION:  The  new MOTIV™  Thrash™  is  a medium  oil  ball   that attacks with control, but has a violent impact.   On fresh  patterns,  the  sanded  Z-Max™  Solid  Reactive  shell eliminates  the  wet/dry  reaction  issue by producing  a smooth and predictable motion  toward the pocket.   At the moment of impact, it thrashes across the  deck and shreds  the pins.   The MOTIV™ Thrash™  is perfect  for average  league bowlers that prefer to throw “down and in”,  and  for  advanced   bowlers  that  want  to  play  a straighter  line on  fresh patterns   to strike with control.  
   The Thrash  is the first solid ball to feature  the  proven  Quadfire core.  It is designed with an RG  to store energy  and  a  differential  to control  track  flare.   The 15# ball has a 2.55 RG and  .043 differential.    Note:  All  ball weights use  the same core  design.  MOTIV does NOT use generic cores in lightweight balls.

 

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Re: Thrash
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 05:08:23 PM »
 

BALL SPECS


Pin Length: 3.1


Starting Top Weight: 2.9


Ball Weight: 15.2


 


DRILL PATTERN


Dual Angle: 70x4.5x75


 


BOWLER STYLE


Rev Rate: 320


Ball Speed: 17mph


PAP/Track: 4 7/8 & 1 1/4 up


 


SURFACE PREP


Grit: 1000


Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polished


 


LANE CONDITION


Length: 41'


Volume: Medium-Heavy


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


 


BALL REACTION (1 to 10 Scale) 10 highest/most
Length: 5


Back End: 6


Overall Hook: 6


Midlane Read: 9


Breakpoint Shape: 5


 


COMMENTS


 


Likes: I went with a very high VAL angle of 75 on my Thrash looking for a smooth breakpoint and a ball that would read the oil early like intended with the solid cover on MOTIV's proven Quadfire core. I have to say I am very pleased with the ball reaction I am getting with my Thrash. I drilled this with the intention of using it on fresh heavy oil shots that I could play a controlled breakpoint with and it has performed beautifully. The best part, however, is I can still use this ball when the oil breaks down. In past experiences for myself on balls that are drilled to read early once the oil starts to breakdown especially in the front-mid part of the lane the energy will burn up to quick and I'll get roll out. To my surprise with the new Thrash I can continue to move in with the shot and get a STRONG continuous backend motion even when the mid lane dries out. This is another great MOTIV ball that does a great job of blending the oil pattern and giving me the hitting power I need. If your looking for a smooth consistent strong roll with a straighter attack I would definitely recommend this ball.


 


Dislikes: Not really a dislike but I did have to play with the surface a little bit to get the best desired reaction for my game. My favorite has been 1000 grit with a polish using MOTIV's power gel polish.


 


 


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Re: Thrash
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2012, 11:28:08 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 40ft and 38 ft
 
Volume: Heavy and Medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS and Flat sport

 
 

 Layout:

 

                4 15/16” x 3 15/16”

 

                60 x 4 15/16” x 73

 

 

 

If you have been looking for a ball that will give you a predictable, controlled reaction on even the toughest of conditions, the Motiv Thrash is the ball you want in your hands. While the core does have a higher RG than most ‘controllable’ equipment (2.55), the Z Max Solid Reactive coverstock , sanded to a 1000-grit finish, keeps the ball from making any violent motions down lane that you may not want. I laid this ball out with the intention of having something that could give me a solid midlane read without overreacting once it hit a dry spot and that is exactly what I got. This ball easily gets through the heads and then makes a smooth transition from midlane read to backend motion. Once the ball decides to make its definitive move to the pocket it revs very hard and makes a strong, smooth, continuing arc through the deck. Even without a sharp entry angle I have had no problems with the Thrash driving though the pins. Where I think this ball excels, though, is when you find yourself on a short pattern or a flat pattern. The smootherness this ball has when reading the spot translates to a very controllable and forgiving breakpoint, excellent for when the last thing you need is unpredictable jumpiness.  Consistent. Predictable. Smooth. All of these words aptly describe, and define, the Motiv Thrash.  

 
 
 
 


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Re: Thrash
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 01:41:01 PM »
LANE CONDITION






Length: 40 ft.

 

Volume:


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): flat sport pattern


 



COMMENTS





Likes: The way the Thrash allowed me to play straighter in the front part of the lane, especially on the fresh. As the lanes transitioned, my moves weren't as drastic as they may have been with other balls, and was able to make small enough moves to keep a consistent ball reaction without sacrificing carry. Being a tweener with a moderate rev rate, the Thrash allowed me to play a bit further right of a majority of players, and stay in my "comfort zone" longer than I may have been with other balls. Even more, the Thrash rolls heavy and predictably off the pattern for optimum hitting power.


Dislikes: No dislikes on this one. The Thrash is a must for anyone looking for a control ball with hitting power.


 


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Re: Thrash
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2012, 01:52:14 PM »
The new MOTIV Thrash is........ Well its awesome!! Great ball to start with on most lane conditions, very versatile bowling ball and can be drilled both weak or strong and still pack that punch through the pins. First time I threw this ball after I drilled it, I wasn't even loose, and this ball kicked out the ten so hard I was amazed, after about 5 shots my  friends looked at me shaking their head on how good it looked.Not to brag or be biased, but every ball MOTIV creates is better than the next, the sky is the limit!! Go get yours!
 
 
This ball fills that gap in the arsenal, and can also be a great addition to any. Hope all of you will get a chance to drill this ball, its flat out amazing, thank MOTIV for this creation.

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Re: Thrash
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2012, 03:25:41 PM »
BALL SPECS


Pin Length: 3-4


Starting Top Weight: 2 3/4


Ball Weight: 15


 


DRILL PATTERN


Pin to PAP: 2in


CG to PAP: 0


X Hole (if there is one): through the CG

 





BOWLER STYLE


Rev Rate:


Ball Speed: 15.5

 

PAP/Track: 5 1/4 1 in up


 


SURFACE PREP



Grit: 1000



Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Solid

 





LANE CONDITION


Length:

 

Volume:



Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): both



 



BALL REACTION


Length:


Back End:

 

Overall Hook:



Midlane Read:



Breakpoint Shape:



 

COMMENTS



Likes: We have all been there, watching someone figure out that straigher lines
are the way to play at the time. Up until now, most ball just hook too
much, too early or too fast off the spot.

This ball is very clean through the front part of the lane. Which I
found amazing for a ball at 1000 grit no polish, how easily it went
through the heads, fresh or torn up. This ball is not a Hook out of the
Box ball. You can play a lot of different lines with it and get pin
thrashing results. If you are having a tough time finding your break
point change to this ball and just let it go. You can play very straight
lines with it and get the results you are looking for. What I like the
most about this ball is it gives me miss right without being "sparky" of
the break point. This ball does not hate oil and does not hate friction,
has great versatility for all bowlers.




Dislikes: 



 


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Re: Thrash
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2012, 12:13:24 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Length:
 
Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):

 
COMMENTS

Likes:

My information

Right Handed,Ball Speed-15mph average,Rev Rate-280 average

Axis Rotation-45 degrees,Axis Tilt-15 degrees



Lanes Thrash was used on

10year old Anvilanes,31/2 year old Proanvilanes 40 foot house shot



Specs of ball tested

15 lbs 3 oz. Top weight-3.3oz. Pin 3.0"

Drilling 65 x 45 @31/2" P2 1/2 hole with 1" bit,2 1/2" deep.



MOTIV Thrash

Color-Deep Ocean Blue,Core-Quadfire,Dual Symmetrical,

Coverstock_New Z max solid reactive at 1000 wet/sand

15 lb. RG 2.55, 15 lb Diff. .043



The new Thrash gave me a heavy arcing motion.The new Z max cover

at 1000 wet/sand created earlier friction in the front part of the lane.

The Thrash begins to read the midlane quicker and gave me more

of an early roll up front,which helped smooth down the back end reaction

and helped control the overreaction on wet-dry patterns.

 The smoother breakpoint reaction is great for controlling the extreme of

the wet-dry house shots.

The  Thrash's reaction never got jumpy at the back end of the patter.It can

of the spot smooth,because most of the energy was used up front.

The Thrash is a great  benchmark ball for most bowlers on a house shot.

Most bowlers should be able to play in the track area without seeing the

ball drastically over-hook when it encounters friction at the back of the pattern.

This is a great control ball.And is best used for a straighter lane to the pocket.



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Re: Thrash
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2012, 04:41:23 PM »
HOUSE CONDITION
Length:  42 '
Volume:  med/heavy
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):  THS

BOWLER STYLE
Ball speed:   17 mph
Rev Rate:   400
PAP:   4 3/4 x 1/8 up
 
BALL SPEC'S
Pin placement:   2.5
Starting Top Weight:   3.0
Ball Weight:   15.4
 
DRILL SPEC'S
MOTIV THRASH
Pin under ring, CG kicked out @ 45 w/P3 hole
Surface is at 1000 polished with MOTIV gel polish
COMMENTS
 
Likes:                                                                                                                                                                          MOTIV has done it again.  This mid-priced ball, and amazing colors will have everybody wanting one.  I drilled the THRASH similar to the QZ1R and the SIGMA TOUR, and couldn't be happier.  The reaction I received was extremely smooth thru the heads, and very predictable off the break point.  You can play the track area for much longer, and when you need to move in, it's just as good. When this ball starts to roll up, it reminds me of urethane.  This ball doesn't jump off of the dry, it's just a smooth roll that can be used on so many conditions.  Again, this will be a benchmark ball for many bowlers.
 
 

 


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Edited on 2/9/2012 at 3:47 PM

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Re: Thrash
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2012, 09:06:07 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 41 ft
 
Volume: light   

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

 

The new MOTIV Thrash is a medium oil ball that attacks with control, but has a violent impact. On a fresh pattern, the sanded Z-Max Solid Reactive shell eliminates the wet/dry reaction by producing a smooth and predictable motion toward the pins. The MOTIV Thrash is perfect for average league bowlers that prefer to throw “down and in”, and for advanced bowlers that want to play a straighter line on fresh patterns to strike with control.

I recently drilled my MOTIV Thrash (45x4.5x45 w/P1.5) and I must say that I am excited about this release. This ball gives bowlers a lot of bang at a mid priced cost. The Thrash is a predictable, smooth rolling and a forgiving ball as it goes down lane. Even with a pretty aggressive OOB surface at 1000 wet sand, it still clears the heads fairly well. Then makes a strong, smooth, and predictable move in the mid-lane, and makes a strong continuous motion in the back end. As with all Motiv balls, I love the way this ball travels through the pins, creating maximum pin carry for the lane condition. I threw my Thrash on a 41 ft. typical house condition and I all I could do is strike!!  Another great ball by MOTIV and a great addition to my arsenal.

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Re: Thrash
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2012, 08:57:34 AM »
LANE CONDITION






Length: 37 ft   

 

Volume:


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): ths


 



COMMENTS





Likes:  Very controllable ball on the backend


Dislikes: when heads fried it hooked a little early


 


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 This ball works great when the impulse becomes just too much bowling ball.  I was able to get in deep and keep a tight angle to the pocket without losing carry.  The layout I chose for this was 65X4.5X55.  The ball also hits like a train. It just keeps driving through the pins.  Thanks Motiv for a great piece of equipment.

 

 

 

 



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Re: Thrash
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2012, 01:58:09 AM »








Motiv Thrash. 


 


INNER CORE: Quadfire


 


COVERSTOCK: Z-Max Solid Reactive


 


BOX FINISH: 1000 Wet Sand


 


15# RG: 2.55, DIFF: .043


 


This ball is designed for medium oil and for straighter play.  If you like the QZ2 line, this ball is a great compliment. When you are getting over/under reaction with the QZ2s, you can move to this ball to smooth out the lane. This ball features the same core as the QZ2, but with a solid surface.


 


I throw the ball 18MPH, with about a 400-450 RPM


 


I have thrown it on both THS and 43 Foot Dead Man's Curve. I drilled a 6in Pin to PAP and placed it below my middle finger, with the CG about 5in from PAP, no extra hold needed. This gave me a very strong "roll" with no major movements. This ball was designed to play on flat patterns and on fresh oil. I can definitely say, they hit that goal. On the 43 foot pattern, I could throw it right up about 8 and it gained plenty of traction in the oil and had no major shifts, which is key early on sport patterns.


 


For a league bowler who doesn’t want to have to swing the ball, this is what you want to throw. For a tournament bowler who is playing on tougher patterns, this is a great first ball out of bag on the heavier oil patterns. 


 


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Re: Thrash
« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2012, 01:53:10 AM »
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COMMENTS









Likes:



Dislikes: 
thrown on a house shot with a 3 man league bowled before my league without the lanes getting reoiled. get lots of carry down and was having trouble getting through the heads. sadly even by the 3rd game when the shot was about burnt up, the ball never performed. it just kept skating. the ball is a leverage drilling, which should be aggressive, but it rolled terribly, and reacted even worse. used the same ball driller that i have for the past 10 years, and he has always done a great job fitting equipment to my game, but this ball was the biggest waste of my money i've ever made on a bowling ball.


 




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Re: Thrash
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2012, 05:31:34 PM »
 

The MOTIV Thrash is another great rolling ball in the product line. It gives you a predictable type of ball motion on the lane. The Quadfire inner core and Z Max Solid Reactive cover stock with an OOB finish (1000 wet sand). The 15# has a 2.55 RG and a differential of .043. The Thrash is recommended for medium oil pattern because it is a ball that is easy to control through the entire portion of the lane. It helps to blend the over/under reaction that you get many times when bowling on a sport pattern.

 

I like to use the Thrash when I need to play the lanes a little straighter on a fresh oil pattern or sport condition. The controlled ball path allows me to stay in a smaller portion of the lane longer as other bowlers have to switch balls or angles to the pocket. The Thrash is the first solid ball by MOTIV to feature the proven Quadfire core. I cannot wait to see and test the performance of this ball on the USBC National shot in Baton Rouge.   

 

This is a ball that you definitely need in your bag when you want to strike with control.  

 
 
 
 


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Re: Thrash
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2012, 06:49:41 PM »
BALL SPECS


Pin Length: 3.5"


Starting Top Weight: 3lb. 2oz.


Ball Weight: 15lb.


 


DRILL PATTERN


50x70@5.25 (puts my pin just under my bridge)


X Hole (if there is one): Yes

 





BOWLER STYLE


Rev Rate: 300-325


Ball Speed: 15-15.25

 

PAP/Track: 5 7/16 over 3/4 up


 




SURFACE PREP


Grit: 1000


Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polished

 


BALL REACTION


Length: Medium



Back End: Continuous

 




COMMENTS

 

I had trouble with this ball at box surface (1000), but added some polish and it's really become a reliable ball for me.  It's starts a little earlier than most of my equipment, but has a great continuous motion through the pocket, the carry is exceptional. My best line playing with it is more a down-and-in, but I am able to move a little bit inside if I have too. It's not a ball I would want to be playing 4th arrow with, but I'm a lefty, so that doesn't happen that often anyways. lol. It's a great compliment to my Recon Silver, TZ3 and Primal Impulse. The solid coverstock let's it not jump off the end of the pattern too hard and is very controllable, I call it "controlled greatness". It takes well to surface adjustments and like most Motiv equipment does what it's supposed to do. Seems to work best on Medium-Heavy volume oil patterns for me, not so well on the lighter stuff. Another great ball buy Motiv! 


 

 


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Re: Thrash
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2012, 11:43:27 PM »
Bowler Stats-Ball Speed 17 MPH Rev Rate-App 275 Axis of Rotation-30 to 60 degrees Axis Tilt 22 degrees Right Handed

The Motive Thrash is designed for medium patterns. The ball performs as advertised. It pushes through the heads with ease as on house shots, revs up in the mid-lanes and makes a strong arc to the pocket.  The change in direction is very gradual, especially in comparison to any of the Motiv Assymetricals, as well as the Sigma Tour.   The Thrash can cover ample boards to be played straight up the lane, and for those with higher rev rates, can easily be used to open up the lane.  For me, this ball plays much better from the track area out.  With my lower rev rate the ball has a tendency to true up early when I swing the ball.  
 
I have successfully used the Thrash playing the track area, and with my RICO drilled Thrash, have had great looks on the outside on this year USBC Open pattern on a synthetic surface.   As long as there is sufficient oil in the heads and the mids and ample dry down lane the Thrash is an excellent choice for house shots.  It is also a strong addition to tougher condition arsenals.
 
The Thrash, as with all of the recent Motiv releases, does not seem to have a surface preference as it reacted well on all bowling surfaces on which I have used it.  The surface of the Thrash takes and holds changes to surface of the ball very well.   The ball also holds up very well to repeated use.   The ball does what is supposed to do, and different layouts make a larger then normal difference in my observation.  

If you use this ball as designed on medium oil patterns, it is a very effective ball.  If the heads get dry, it can burn up early, and it will skate if the oil is too far down lane.  

The Thrash gives Motiv a piece of equipment for Motiv believers who needed a ball with dull cover but not too strong of a reaction, much like the SX1 was at it's introduction.    I'm very colorblind but I've heard from multiple bowlers that the ball is very pleasing to the eye and will give it good shelf appeal.





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