Finally drilled one all I can say is 'WOW' bowled 3 games in an center known for tight back-ends, Primal Rage made it back every shot. When my other balls would wiggle and not recover the Primal Rage did, ball is very impressive.

For me it's an benchmark ball covers an lot of conditions except the dry.

I have both the Rage and Tribal drilled similarly. The Rage is the first ball that I have ever used that I don't worry how oily the lanes are. With my slower ball speed it gives me everything I could want on such conditions. The Tribal is a ball that plays superbly on medium to lighter shots but if I move out near the gutter I've found heavier shots don't present much of a problem. I have spent many dollars over the years chasing the perfect bowling ball for me. My investment into these two finally showed me I spent my money well.