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Motiv Villain Review
« on: March 25, 2018, 08:26:29 PM »
Motiv Villain
 MFS – Medium Friction Solid
 3000 Grit LSS
 Asymmetric Core
 Layout 50 x 4-5/8 x 40

 Bowler Specs:
 Right Hand.  PAP  4-3/4 Over 1/4 Up
 Rev Rate 250. Tilt 20. Rotation 50.
 Speed off hand  18

 Review:
 The new Motiv Villain is a fun ball to roll! Throw it to your target and watch it come back. Motiv has wrapped a very nice medium friction Coercion cover around the Sinister core. The Sinister core was used some time ago and had many fans. I was, and I am still a fan of this core. In the older balls with the Sinister core I had to use weaker layouts so the ball would not burn early, not with this one. I have put three different layouts on my Villains and got three distinct differences! I see more shape variations with layouts on this ball than any other ball I can think of. I believe this is because the medium friction cover allows for easy length even while having a strong core. The Villain fits between my Rising and SS in total hook. On our typical house shot during league I mostly cannot use my Rising due to the early read and total hook at box surface. I have not had any problem using my Villain at box during league, even when moving deep. It may not be the best choice for the third game but it is too much fun to put down!  The ball comes with 3000 surface but tunes easily. The Villains versatility will make it a must have strong benchmark or tournament ball. Motiv shows the Villain to be smooth on the back end but the ones I have used and drilled have been pretty angular.  I have used this ball at three different houses so far. One a medium house shot, one a wet house shot and a medium volume flat shot. The ball worked very well on all conditions. The Villain carry is excellent probably due to the entry angle and the ball continues nicely through the pins. I drilled a Villain for one of my better high speed bowlers and I’ve never seen him carry light hits as well as he does with tis ball.  I think Motiv has developed something special with the Villain. It moves differently than any non-polished ball I have ever used. The Villain will definitely be part of my house, tournament and National line up this year.



Summary:
 The Villain will be an excellent strong benchmark or tournament ball.
 This ball is very versatile with layouts and surface.
 The Villain reads the mid lane while retaining energy for plenty of hit.
 If you like to trust a ball the Villain is a great choice.

 Glenn  Wendel
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Re: Motiv Villain Review
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2018, 07:42:16 AM »
It's to the point I'm about to just start saying I'm unaffiliated and just prefer to stick with Storm/Roto so I don't get the "oh he's a staffer . ." reaction.  Might as well go on CNN and say I voted for Trump or Fox News and say I voted for Hillary, because saying you're a staffer in the culture today is about as far as you're going to get before people stop listening. 
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Re: Motiv Villain Review
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2018, 07:45:23 AM »
This isn't anything like this.  It's a garbage staffer hype "blovation" type of review.  Guy is just trying to move units to keep getting a contract every year. 

milo I don't need to check the document to know that your blovation is nothing but tripe. if you cant say something nice about someone don't say it.just my two cents worth. rant over!!!
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Re: Motiv Villain Review
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2018, 07:54:06 AM »
I know I'm staying off Fred's lawn for sure........  :P
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Re: Motiv Villain Review
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2018, 08:27:46 AM »
milo I don't need to check the document to know that your blovation is nothing but tripe. if you cant say something nice about someone don't say it.just my two cents worth. rant over!!!


Really? So you are a "do as I say, not as I do" kinda guy huh?

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Re: Motiv Villain Review
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2018, 10:47:56 AM »
milo I don't need to check the document to know that your blovation is nothing but tripe. if you cant say something nice about someone don't say it.just my two cents worth. rant over!!!


You do realize that this IS a public forum?  As they say ‘ If you can’t handle the heat, then stay out of the kitchen’

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, like it or not.

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Re: Motiv Villain Review
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2018, 05:09:07 PM »
+1 to leftybowler70.  The most obvious example of a garbage review that was more recent was from Diandra Asbaty with the Storm Timeless.  I like her as a bowler and respect what she does for the sport, but to say the ball is good for everyone is an obvious lie.  We all have to remember that staffers are paid to help promote and sell equipment.  Although all manufacturers make good equipment, not everything will match up perfectly for everyone, regardless of how good the ball or the PSO is.

Diandra mentioned this in the interview for who should try the Timeless out: moms, dads, teens, kids, blond hair people, curly hair people, if you've ever bowled ever, or if you're thinking of bowling.  That was a pure oversell in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVA7C_9QS4k

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Re: Motiv Villain Review
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2018, 08:06:31 PM »
Yeah, it was completely ridiculous, and I think that's part of why they got the blowback they did.  It was an oversell across the board on an average ball. 

+1 to leftybowler70.  The most obvious example of a garbage review that was more recent was from Diandra Asbaty with the Storm Timeless.  I like her as a bowler and respect what she does for the sport, but to say the ball is good for everyone is an obvious lie.  We all have to remember that staffers are paid to help promote and sell equipment.  Although all manufacturers make good equipment, not everything will match up perfectly for everyone, regardless of how good the ball or the PSO is.

Diandra mentioned this in the interview for who should try the Timeless out: moms, dads, teens, kids, blond hair people, curly hair people, if you've ever bowled ever, or if you're thinking of bowling.  That was a pure oversell in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVA7C_9QS4k
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