I picked one up about a week ago. Drilled 3 1/2" pin to PAP, pin right of ring. For me, it was over/under at it's OOB surface. I knocked off the polish with a 4000 abralon pad and I like it much better now. Hooks a little earlier but is much more predictable. Great ball for medium to med/light.

I'm thinking about doing the same with mine and take some of shine off of it. I also get alot of over/under with the OOB finish unless the lanes are light with oil. But on the right conditions this ball works nicely. Probably will use mine just for tournaments since Motiv might not have another release until June.