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LyalC52

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Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« on: March 15, 2016, 02:20:42 PM »
USBC's FB page is reporting the Jackal and Carnage have been removed from the approved equipment list. I've been trying to get onto Bowl.com to read the article, but their site is down.

Anyone know why?
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2016, 08:41:50 PM »
It seems like all other companies stay right at or below .58 diff. Maybe that's the safe zone just in case something like this happens.
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2016, 09:01:02 PM »
This just in. Going price on eBay is now $500 a ball. Everyone needs more flare!
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2016, 09:12:20 PM »
We can all throw out conspiracy theories as to how this was caught, but none of us know what brought this about. In the end, rules are rules. If the balls weren't meeting the spec, they need to be pulled. It sucks for the bowlers, but, as others have said, maybe that's why so few manufacturers push it so close to the number. If anything goes wrong during QC, you can get a problem like this.
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2016, 09:17:35 PM »
Quote from: noslouch on March 15, 2016, 08:03:57 PM
Oh my goodness. Then all those Storm and Brunswick balls that won so many tournaments must also be ILLEGAL. As stated after drilling diff. must be really sky high above the max diff. I guess Storm has about or had 30% of U.S. sales. Somebody didn't like to lose sales to MOTIV.

If I drive 65.01 mph on a 65 mph road is it illegal? Yes it is. If the diff is 0.60 and the ball is 0.601 is illegal? Yea it is.
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2016, 09:27:00 PM »
 You can drive up 5mph over the posted speed limit in generally most any location without it being illegal. Unless you happen to be in serious red neck ville. At that point your 35% safer staying indoors
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2016, 09:33:27 PM »
One of the competitors had to be involved.

Who sends a case of balls with a post it, "spin me"

They're getting cut throat out there..
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2016, 09:35:03 PM »
 When you get to .001 over the Diff. limit the Belmonte Gremlins are released from the ball and wreak havoc creating monstrous revolutions that no bowler should wield on the lanes
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2016, 09:35:43 PM »
Quote from: billdozer on March 15, 2016, 09:33:27 PM
One of the competitors had to be involved.

Who sends a case of balls with a post it, "spin me"

They're getting cut throat out there..

I think so as well, thats why I posted that disclaimer from Dilaura Brothers bowling supply.
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2016, 09:36:30 PM »
Quote from: BW on March 15, 2016, 03:51:02 PM
That sucks that USBC is banning the balls immediately. They could have given bowlers a short period of time(30 days or less) to get a replacement ball. I have no doubt people are showing up to bowl league tonight with no knowledge of this whatsoever.

Had a guy really upset tonight.
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2016, 09:36:47 PM »
Where did that come from, Billdozer? I'm not saying that sort of thing couldn't have happened, but that's a bit of a reach to throw out there unless there is proof to back it up.
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2016, 09:41:12 PM »
Quote from: Gene J Kanak on March 15, 2016, 09:36:47 PM
Where did that come from, Billdozer? I'm not saying that sort of thing couldn't have happened, but that's a bit of a reach to throw out there unless there is proof to back it up.

Well if u read the PDF from dilaura...they made the claim.

A pro shop operator or a general person isn't going to shell out the $ for a case to be sent to USBC. COME ON. USE YOUR MANLY DEDUCTIVE REASONING.

it's got a be a competitor.  Who? I'd be betting my $ on Utah/Kentucky/Mexico.  I could also see someone who coulda been an insider with motiv...ex staffer that knew of the variances, maybe they dumped him. Idk.

Just playing detectiive. I have no proof.  Plus u got someone on here saying that the big b guys were rejoicing in Facebook...kinda obvi there...
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2016, 09:41:34 PM »
Quote from: REmarcaBOWL on March 15, 2016, 03:30:14 PM
Overseas Jackals still alive! LOL  :-X



Killing me lol
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2016, 09:53:27 PM »
The amazing thing I've seen with this issue is how so many people in post around the different sites are up in arms because the USBC did their job.

Everyone has bellyached over and over about how the USBC doesn't enforce anything. Now that they have they are bellyaching about that.

I guess everyone only wants the USBC enforce the rules they want enforced or that don't affect them personally.
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2016, 09:55:34 PM »
Quote from: noslouch on March 15, 2016, 09:27:00 PM
You can drive up 5mph over the posted speed limit in generally most any location without it being illegal. Unless you happen to be in serious red neck ville. At that point your 35% safer staying indoors
Not in the department i am in nor surrounding me.
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Re: Jackal and Carnage removed from USBC approved list
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2016, 09:57:05 PM »
Where was that link, Billdozer? I haven't seen that yet. As for rejoicing, I am FB friends with quite a few Brunswick reps and staffers, and I haven't seen a single post about this issue from any of them.
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