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AlonzoHarris

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Jackal Rising / New Tank
« on: October 15, 2017, 04:00:09 PM »
Jackal Rising partially leaked on Facebook with the Predator V3. Also a new Tank. Post has since been removed.
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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2017, 11:40:56 AM »
Per the Motiv live videos

The Jackal Rising will be earlier and a little stronger than the Ghost.

The Combat Tank will be longer and weaker than the Tank Rampage

So stronger cover on the rising and weaker cover on the combat?

Sounds like what happened with the original Jackal and the Carnage, and the Tank and Rebel Tank.

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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2017, 11:26:09 PM »
Per the Motiv live videos

The Jackal Rising will be earlier and a little stronger than the Ghost.

The Combat Tank will be longer and weaker than the Tank Rampage

It's possible to be earlier and stronger than the Ghost?

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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2017, 11:08:12 AM »
My Jackal LE hits harder and carries way more off pocket hits than my Jackal Ghost. I bought my Jackal Ghost in August, but 2 weeks ago I had to go back to the Jackal LE.

My Jackal Ghost was leaving way too many 7 pins or 10 pins. Those corner pins were killing me.
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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2017, 11:41:30 AM »
My Jackal LE hits harder and carries way more off pocket hits than my Jackal Ghost. I bought my Jackal Ghost in August, but 2 weeks ago I had to go back to the Jackal LE.

My Jackal Ghost was leaving way too many 7 pins or 10 pins. Those corner pins were killing me.

If the surface prep in your description for the two balls was the same at the time, I definitely could see why. Ever polish your Ghost?
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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2017, 09:02:55 PM »
Jackal Rising
 


COLOR: Black/Emerald Solid
COVERSTOCK: Coercionâ„¢ HV2 Solid
CORE: Predatorâ„¢ V3
FINISH: 2000 Grit LSS
LANE CONDITION: Heavy Oil
REACTION: Big Overall Hook
WEIGHTS: 14-16 lbs.



Combat Tank LE
 

COLOR: Black/Burgundy
COVERSTOCK: Alchemyâ„¢ Hybrid
CORE: Reconâ„¢
FINISH: 3000 Grit LSS
LANE CONDITION: Light Oil
REACTION: Smooth w/ Light Backend
WEIGHTS: 14-16 lbs.


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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2017, 02:44:40 PM »
So a new version of the Predator core and a urethane with the Ascent core? Hmm.

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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2017, 07:38:12 PM »
Per the Motiv live videos

The Jackal Rising will be earlier and a little stronger than the Ghost.

The Combat Tank will be longer and weaker than the Tank Rampage

It's possible to be earlier and stronger than the Ghost?

Anything is possible with new ball marketing.
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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2017, 08:01:03 PM »
Per the Motiv live videos

The Jackal Rising will be earlier and a little stronger than the Ghost.

The Combat Tank will be longer and weaker than the Tank Rampage

It's possible to be earlier and stronger than the Ghost?

Anything is possible with new ball marketing.

#believethehype

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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2017, 08:13:08 PM »
2000 LSS? Must be a new factory finish for Motiv. 360, 500 then 1000? Interesting.

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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2017, 08:08:32 AM »
Per the Motiv live videos

The Jackal Rising will be earlier and a little stronger than the Ghost.

The Combat Tank will be longer and weaker than the Tank Rampage

It's possible to be earlier and stronger than the Ghost?

Anything is possible with new ball marketing.

#believethehype

I think they'd rather you "hype the belief".
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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2017, 08:49:13 AM »
2000 LSS? Must be a new factory finish for Motiv. 360, 500 then 1000? Interesting.
well, that would make a ball earlier and smoother. I'm passing on this one. My ghost has 20 games on it and I have the ball since it released.

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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2017, 09:06:19 AM »
2000 LSS? Must be a new factory finish for Motiv. 360, 500 then 1000? Interesting.

That can't be the process to get to 2000 LSS. 360, 500, 1000...
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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2017, 09:20:39 AM »
2000 LSS? Must be a new factory finish for Motiv. 360, 500 then 1000? Interesting.

That can't be the process to get to 2000 LSS. 360, 500, 1000...

It could be. Motiv's LSS 3000 on the Ghost is 500/1000/2000 on a spinner. http://www.motivbowling.com/resources/factory-finish-guide.html

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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2017, 02:56:57 PM »
2000 LSS? Must be a new factory finish for Motiv. 360, 500 then 1000? Interesting.

That can't be the process to get to 2000 LSS. 360, 500, 1000...

It could be. Motiv's LSS 3000 on the Ghost is 500/1000/2000 on a spinner. http://www.motivbowling.com/resources/factory-finish-guide.html

I feel like saying only using grits below the stated finish surface defies science, unless they use pads so worn they aren't the true grit anymore.
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Re: Jackal Rising / New Tank
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2017, 11:03:42 AM »
2000 LSS? Must be a new factory finish for Motiv. 360, 500 then 1000? Interesting.

That can't be the process to get to 2000 LSS. 360, 500, 1000...

It could be. Motiv's LSS 3000 on the Ghost is 500/1000/2000 on a spinner. http://www.motivbowling.com/resources/factory-finish-guide.html

I feel like saying only using grits below the stated finish surface defies science, unless they use pads so worn they aren't the true grit anymore.

Not really. You have two surfaces at different grit levels working against each other. Why should one always win out over the other? Pads are known to wear down fairly quickly. Therefore, it would be foolish to think that a bowling ball would magically get to the grit level of a pad.

In fact, studies have shown that using a spinner results in a higher grit than the pad being used. You only achieve a true grit level on the bowling ball's surface by doing it by hand, and even then, not overdoing it.

Generally speaking, unless one surface maintains its grit level for a long period of time, the two surfaces are going to work against each other and blend out.