Good Evening Motiv Keglerz,

You may have seen my similar post in the Radical section. Im considering Motiv, Radical, and Hammmer. I’m been giving some deep thought (yes my ears are smoking) into possibly switching from Storm/Rotogrip.

What would you recommend for an arsenal of no more than 9 balls, not including the spare ball?
Obviously I’m looking for the Motiv only option here, but am open if there’s a viable reason to use another manufactures ball such as “Radical not having a great THS ball or something”.

Stats:

Ball Speed: 16-17mph
Rev: 300
Axis Rotation: 75 Degrees
Axis Tilt: 17 Degrees

My benchmark punchups are as follows (modified based on motion I’m looking for)

Sym - 50x3.5x40 with balance hole ar 2” below midline on the VAL
Asym - 40x4.25x45

I’m right handed and bowl both THS and Sport on a weekly basis.

Your thoughts and suggestions are highly appreciated!!!!!!

Would trade out the Jackal for a Cash or More Cash as guy says in another thread willing to mix and match brands.  Then again I need the even more extreme asym love as I am a bit rev challenged.

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I throw almost exclusivly Motiv and I also bowl THS and PBA.

You only need 4.

Jackal Ghost
United Revolt
Venom Shock
Venom Cobra

If you can't cover what you see with these balls, you need to work on your game, not buy more equipment.

United to Shock? That's quite a jump.

You must be going by the Motiv Ball chart. The Shock is a stronger ball than where Motiv has it listed.

I'm going by numbers. 2.48 .034 vs 2.47 .056.

Ehh, what do I know. I only throw the balls three or four times a week. 

I'm not doubting!!

Here is my input and I am sure will hear the heat:

Your goal is to build the best bag for the conditions you will see. If you are not a staffer, I feel you are limiting your best options if you go with one brand. Being brand loyal is great, however, it may also be handcuffing you.

You said you were looking at Radical, Motiv and Hammer. My suggestion is to get something from their line-up that are known to do well.

Radical  = Cash: Heavy Oil
Motiv = Venom Shock: smooth benchmark
Hammer = cherry vibe: for drier conditions

Then go from there, and fill in the gaps as you desire.

The notion that being a staffer isn’t limiting but someone that is brand loyal is limited makes no sense. At the end of the day both are using 1 brand so it’s the same.

The notion that being a staffer isn’t limiting but someone that is brand loyal is limited makes no sense. At the end of the day both are using 1 brand so it’s the same.

I agree they are the same but perhaps one is more likely to look past the sacrifice when they don't have to drop a couple of grand on balls.

Motiv is more rounded than some of the other brands.  That said I have found some awesome balls from just about all the brands.  Yes if you are going to have an arsenal of 5 or 6 bowls or less going with one brand maybe makes sense.  I am not that person.