Motiv balls still performing excellent after150 etc games or what ever doesn't surprised me the least bit, based on my personal experience with Motiv balls. For me, Motiv balls just never seem to die like I have had balls die or their performance deteriorate from NIB from other companies. I have yet to have to de-oil a Motiv ball. I have read numerous times also on both here and on BBE about people with Motiv balls never getting any oil out of them when trying to de-oil them.