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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: Blueprint on August 16, 2014, 05:00:35 PM
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I've seen a few different posts on here about how pleased some of you have been with Motiv's equipment. Some have mentioned switching from throwing storm/roto grip exclusively to throwing motiv. What differences do you see in Motiv's equipment when compared to other brands? I've considered trying Motiv, but never made the leap.
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For me, I've really noticed how great their covers are. Very easy to fine tune and great durability.
Also seem to be very predictable, when I throw the ones I have I know what I'm going to get out of them
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So my speed is around 17.5 and rev rate around 425 rpm. If i decided to try some Motiv equipment what would be recommended? I am currently throwing the following storm/roto:
Tropical breeze hybrid
Uproar
Optimus
Asylum
Hy-Road Solid
Hyper Cell
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I'll second the same that SVstar34 has mentioned. Motiv's covers seem to hold up well, and I know exactly what I'm getting from each specific ball. I also like the versatility from them as well. It's nice to know that I can stick with a ball a little longer or go to one a little earlier when needed.
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Blueprint: Start with the Sigma Sting. That ball is the true definition of benchmark and versatility. The Covert Revolt is a great medium-heavy piece that's very smooth and lets you chase the oil in. The Octane is a great skid/snap hybrid that can be used when you need a different motion from the Sting.
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Blueprint: Start with the Sigma Sting. That ball is the true definition of benchmark and versatility. The Covert Revolt is a great medium-heavy piece that's very smooth and lets you chase the oil in. The Octane is a great skid/snap hybrid that can be used when you need a different motion from the Sting.
So as far as not having any over lap, could I use the same layouts on the Octane and Sigma Sting or go pin up Octane and pin down Sigma Sting? Also would pin down on the Covert Revolt cause it to roll too early?
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Don't sleep on the Venom Shock. It's easily one of the best balls on the market right now. Tons of bang for your buck.
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Don't sleep on the Venom Shock. It's easily one of the best balls on the market right now. Tons of bang for your buck.
^^^ Agree on that.
As for the original question, there are a couple of things that make Motiv special/unique to me. Performance wise they all seem to fit the hole they're designed to fit. The shape and strength is always accurately described by Motiv, which I appreciate.
Also, Motiv does hit and carry better for me. Always a nice bonus.
Last but not least, I've dealt with the guys up in Muskegon personally on several occasions. Sometimes as a customer, and sometimes as a shop operator. Because of that I've seen first hand their dedication to quality products as well as outstanding customer service. I have never seen or heard of a company with better customer service. That's a huge plus, as it really allows me to throw, and sell, Motiv equipment with a high level of confidence that they have, and always will, back their product up 100%.
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Blueprint: Start with the Sigma Sting. That ball is the true definition of benchmark and versatility. The Covert Revolt is a great medium-heavy piece that's very smooth and lets you chase the oil in. The Octane is a great skid/snap hybrid that can be used when you need a different motion from the Sting.
So as far as not having any over lap, could I use the same layouts on the Octane and Sigma Sting or go pin up Octane and pin down Sigma Sting? Also would pin down on the Covert Revolt cause it to roll too early?
You could use similar layouts on the Octane and Sigma Sting as the covers are different. The Octane uses a brand new hybrid cover called Agility SFX which is designed for true skid/flip, whereas the Sigma Sting uses a version of the Fusion Pearl cover that first came out on the Primal Rage last year. The Agility cover will be cleaner up front whereas the Fusion will read earlier. Overall, the motions will be completely different. Basically when the Sigma Sting is reading too early, go to the Octane as it will give you more length and a strong backend.
On the Covert Revolt, mine was drilled pin up. This is because I wanted something that would still give me a good combination of length but have additional backend on some heavier volume. For heavy volume, I can still go to my Defiant or Critical Theory. Drilling the Revolt pin down will cause it to read earlier, making the ball motion very smooth (it's already smooth/predictable with pin up). Keep in mind how early it reads will depend on the layout you use in combination with the surface you go with. In my case, box surface has been plenty for what I need.
This video shows the Octane being thrown with several different layouts and also compares it to other balls in the line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m65gS1pyEww
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A little of topic, but isn't MOTIV a sister company of VBP?
If so, some of their stuff might be able to compliment the MOTIV stuff.
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A little of topic, but isn't MOTIV a sister company of VBP?
If so, some of their stuff might be able to compliment the MOTIV stuff.
They are not
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A little of topic, but isn't MOTIV a sister company of VBP?
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Motiv is completely independent of any other bowling ball manufacturer, as far as I am aware.
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Motiv and Visionary are independent. IIRC, Visionary came to be after Faball was acquired by EBI.
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For me, my scores are higher with Motiv.
The Sigma Sting is excellent. My personal favorite is the Covert Revolt.
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Motiv seems to have the most durable, easily adjustable covers on the market. They don't seem to be as sensitive to surface adjustments as other companies. Oil absorption is much slower. Consistency and versatility is off the planet good. The length and backend transition is really what sells it for me. Even the big hooking stuff gets pretty easy length, and the backend transition is consistent, strong, and continuous out of everything. Lately I've been looking at shaking it up and trying something from another company. Everything I look at is either I don't like the reaction shape, there's overlap here, that ball isn't interesting, etc., but Motiv is almost frustrating because I want everything lol. Storm used to have the market on reactions and reaction shapes, but Motiv has recently overtaken them, specifically with the Shock, the Octane, and the Tribal Fire. Motiv has absolutely every reaction you could want.