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Title: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: nocarey on June 04, 2010, 02:36:36 PM
I just heard about this. . .release date 7/16/2010

Motiv Recon RX1
Bright Orange Reactive

Coverstock: MOTIVator-X
Weight Block: NEW Recon RX1
Factory Finish: 4000 Wet Sand

another one to save up for
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: Rc Charger on June 04, 2010, 11:41:31 PM
I can honestly say not looking forward to another x series ball.  I been rolling the TZ3 and love the reaction.  I'll give it a shot regardless.


RC
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: jbuzz31 on June 07, 2010, 10:57:52 AM
2.59 RG
.025 Diff
Is this a light oil ball?
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: LordWalrus on June 07, 2010, 11:02:11 AM
quote:
2.59 RG
.025 Diff
Is this a light oil ball?



It mentions light oil and short patterns in the pdf.
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: charlest on June 07, 2010, 11:32:16 AM
quote:
2.59 RG
.025 Diff
Is this a light oil ball?
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With the coverstock from the "urethane-like" (Ha-ha!!!) SX-1 and TX-1, what else could it be?
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: nocarey on June 07, 2010, 11:33:06 AM
Motiv's answer to the popular Storm Natural.
It states the reaction is like a urethane ball.
Kinda looks like the old Columbia Pirhanna.
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: charlest on June 07, 2010, 11:49:36 AM
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Motiv's answer to the popular Storm Natural.
It states the reaction is like a urethane ball.
Kinda looks like the old Columbia Pirhanna.


People have said the SX-1 had a urethane-like reaction. I didn't see that. The covers just absorb less than traditional resin but still absorb. They absorb faster than urethane, though. At one point in time urethane's absorption rate was 1/20th of resin's rate and resins absorb MUCH faster now.

The Motivator-X coverstock is first, last and always resin. Never forget that, no matter how much the ball reaction MAY look urethane-like to your release.
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: dark_rising76 on June 07, 2010, 09:41:56 PM
Nice looking logo with the orange. I rarely bowl on short/light oil unless it's a major tournament. I may have to pass on this ball and wait til their other release in August.
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: Brett A Spangler on June 09, 2010, 09:27:16 AM
This is an exciting release.  I think it's important that it is resin.  There are too many companies in the niche market with the urethane.  Brunswick has the new Urethane Avalanche and Roto is coming out with the Grenade.  T

The Recon can offer a super controllable resin and that is something else entirely.  The dry lane resins from the Ebonite brands are all too strong or too flippy if not both.  A weak resin shell with a tall, low diff. core should provide a unique look and fill a hole in the market.  

My plan is to get my hands on one and put the pin on the PAP.
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: charlest on June 09, 2010, 09:56:46 AM
quote:
This is an exciting release.  I think it's important that it is resin.  There are too many companies in the niche market with the urethane.  Brunswick has the new Urethane Avalanche and Roto is coming out with the Grenade.  T

The Recon can offer a super controllable resin and that is something else entirely.  The dry lane resins from the Ebonite brands are all too strong or too flippy if not both.  A weak resin shell with a tall, low diff. core should provide a unique look and fill a hole in the market.  

My plan is to get my hands on one and put the pin on the PAP.


Hey, if you're lucky, it will compare well with the Brunswick Slingshot. It's just barely a step above the Avalanche urethane.
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: Brett A Spangler on June 09, 2010, 12:44:24 PM
I really think it will be weaker than the slingshot.  The cores are VERY similar in specifications, but PowerKoil 17 is much stronger than the Motivator-X in my experience.  It will be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: tizzle on June 09, 2010, 02:51:12 PM
The recon should be weaker then a slingshot with similar drillings... Also I have a preorder going on them for 93 shipped to your door.. excellent way to try out motiv if you havent already!
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: charlest on June 09, 2010, 04:25:04 PM
But the Slingshot is polished. The Recon is sanded to 4000 grit. That also will make a difference.
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Edited on 6/9/2010 6:08 PM
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: sstaz on June 09, 2010, 06:55:12 PM
here is the recon posted on motive website

http://www.motivbowling.com/products/2/24.html
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: Brett A Spangler on June 09, 2010, 08:58:19 PM
I suppose surface makes a difference if you don't have a spinner or access to a spinner.
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: tizzle on June 24, 2010, 08:27:31 AM
I got a chance to take one out for a spin. It reminded me alot of the seismic desperado very clean through the fronts then a nice pronounced move coming off the pattern. It did have alot of pop for a ball designed for low oil.. which was my gripe with alot of weak balls, as some heat like a wet noodle.. this one hit pretty good. Not bad for a 83 dollar ball. I really liked how if I missed inside it held its line and if it hit the dry it still have the same gradual motion. The storm natural was the exact opposite in my hands.. it just leaped off the dry and in my opinion was too strong for what its intention was.
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: charlest on June 24, 2010, 09:17:26 AM
quote:
here is the recon posted on motive website

http://www.motivbowling.com/products/2/24.html


Oddly, the 12 and 13 lb balls have the largest differential with almost the same RG. Fascinating.
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: joshs on June 25, 2010, 01:48:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlQjwFRQzbc

Here's a short video of 2 recon rx1's with different layouts being thrown on a broken down league shot
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: tywithay on June 25, 2010, 02:01:31 PM
doesn't look like a dry lane/short oil ball at all unless those lanes were completely toasted...
Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: charlest on June 25, 2010, 03:52:55 PM
In case any of you missed it, here are his notes about the balls he used and the sequence:

The first few shots are with a tx1 box surface with a rico drill to use as a gage for the next two balls thrown.
Next are 2 of the new RECON RX1. The first has a 5 3/8 pin, which puts the pin 1 1/2 in above my middle finger. The next has a 4 in pin which is above and slightly to the right of my ring finger.
If you notice the first set of shots with the long pin RECON, it stores more energy and pops more on the backend. Notice the first couple shots where I'm able to get away with some missed shots left and right.
The 2nd RECON is smoother and more controlable off the friction. Both are in box finish in this video. I'll lay down cheetah in the next couple days and shoot some video of the RECONs on that.

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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: kidlost2000 on June 26, 2010, 12:42:01 AM
Nice vid. I was really considering the ball but was worried when it was compared to a sling shot or power groove. It looks like a little more hook and maybe more comparable to the Avalanche series. I throw mostly Brunswick so that is what I have to judge off of.

Looking forward to seeing the ball on a fresh shot.
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Title: Re: Motiv Recon RX1
Post by: joshs on June 26, 2010, 10:16:49 AM
tywithay,
This is a dry lane/short oil ball.  The lanes I was bowling on was a broken down league shot, but by no means toasted.  I can generate a lot of revs, and can make weaker balls hook more than others.  
This ball is weaker than the rest of the current motiv line-up.  It gets down the lane well (because of the X coverstock).  The difference is in the core.  The core allows this ball to be more controled and smooth at the break point and overall a little weaker than the tx1 and sx1.  Anyone looking for a good dry lane ball would be wise to check this ball out.  And it stands out on the ball rack also
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