win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review  (Read 7368 times)

MOTIVmags

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 213
MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« on: February 06, 2015, 07:50:37 AM »

Description:The Venom Panic is the 4thinstallment in the Venom series and again placed in the lower mid-price range. It is the first Venom to feature a pearl coverstock around the Gear Core. It has the NEW Turmoil MFP (Medium Friction Pearl) coverstock.

Reaction:The Venom Shock is one of my favorite balls EVER drilled. In fact I only brought 4 balls to Reno last year for USBC’s and 2 of them were Venom Shocks (In addition to a Covert Revolt and Artic Sniper). With that being said to be able to have a cleaner and faster responding version is nothing short of amazing. The Venom Panic hasn’t disappointed me…even with lower RG Gear Core it doesn’t seem to lack length but,it picks up in just the right spot to create great entry angle when the Venom Shock is too shallow. The Venom Panic has great continuation as well as that great carry that the Venom Shock is known for. My pin-up Venom Panic (40X5X45) provides just the right amount of length with a very strong motion down lane. My pin-down Venom Panic (70X4X60) provides a more even shape showing more strength sooner than later.

Comparisons:It’s very clear in the differences between the Venom Shock and Venom Panic. The Venom Shock clearly starts up sooner and doesn’t respond as fast to friction, I think it’s only stronger due to the difference in surface. The Tribal Fire is definitely cleaner throughout the lane with less overall hook potential. Last, the Revolt Vengeance reads the lane sooner with a more gradual shape down lane, giving it more hook potential. I also did a quick surface adjustment to the pin down Venom Panic, it was noticeably earlier and smoother as well as pushed me on top of the Venom Shock line. I did feel that it took away from the intended purpose and for me will best suited at the box surface.

Summary: It’s really unbelievable the quality of product and the hook potential MOTIV continues to put out with the price point on this line of balls. With that being said, I think this will be making the bag for USBC’s this year in Reno.

Mike Magolan
MOTIV/Turbo/Boom Apparel Staff Member

« Last Edit: February 09, 2015, 07:39:29 AM by MOTIVmags »

 

L3nn0n

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 415
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2015, 02:35:30 PM »

Written review coming soon!

Great video! I'm still debating between the Venom Shock or the Venom Panic as a step down from the Sigma Sting, I am a left handed bowler with the following numbers:

PAP 4" x 3/4+
Axis Rotation 80º
Axis Tilt 5º
Speed 16.26 mph
Revs 160

I'm a speed dominant bowler... So between the Shock and the Panic, and since you already tried both... What ball would you recommend me for when I see a little bit of a break down or when the sting is too much?

Thanks!
« Last Edit: February 06, 2015, 02:43:46 PM by L3nn0n »

MOTIVmags

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 213
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2015, 02:59:23 PM »
Well I would have to recommend the Venom Panic because by nature being speed dominant you are going to get plenty of length, as to with the Venom Shock it will start up sooner and hook more for you throughout the lane.

The Venom Panic may not necessarily be too much weaker than a Sigma Sting maybe even consider an Octane...

todvan

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 234
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2015, 03:05:11 PM »
Excellent.  I like your layout comparison and how this ball compares to other Motiv balls.  Thanks!
MOTIV Jackal LE .................40 x 4.5 x 40 p2.5
MOTIV Revolt Vengeance......45 x 4.0 x 50 p3
MOTIV Forza GT ..................50 x 4.0 x 70 p2.5
MOTIV Sigma Sting..............50 x 4.0 x 45 p3

Brickguy221

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9918
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2015, 03:22:15 PM »
Well I would have to recommend the Venom Panic because by nature being speed dominant you are going to get plenty of length, as to with the Venom Shock it will start up sooner and hook more for you throughout the lane.

The Venom Panic may not necessarily be too much weaker than a Sigma Sting maybe even consider an Octane...

I have an Octane that has never matched up to me since day 1 regardless of cover change, so I am looking for a replacement for it. I bought the Octane to replace my Thrash Frenzy when I moved up in weight.  I really loved The TF as it ws one of the best balls I have ever had. Sadly, the Octane failed to give the same great results. I know others that haven't liked the Octane either, my pro shop driller included. I am going to look at the Panic as I want to stay with Motiv.
"Whenever I feel the urge to exercise I lie down until the feeling passes away"

L3nn0n

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 415
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 03:30:06 PM »
Well I would have to recommend the Venom Panic because by nature being speed dominant you are going to get plenty of length, as to with the Venom Shock it will start up sooner and hook more for you throughout the lane.

The Venom Panic may not necessarily be too much weaker than a Sigma Sting maybe even consider an Octane...

I'm not a big fan of the late hook kind of shape of the Octane. In fact I had a Tribal Fire but after watching the videos and talking with some people it was too angular for me and I'm gonna exchange that ball either for the Shock or the Panic... Due To my low revs, I need a ball that can provide me with easy revs and something smoother and predictable for when the lane is over/under. Definitely the Octane is too angular for me. And also the Octane is stronger than the Panic I suppose, right? I need something as a step down for my Sting.

So between the Shock and the Panic, what would you suggest?

billdozer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4613
  • Goin' Global!
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2015, 02:57:25 AM »
Great video
In the bag [Infinite Physix, Volatility Torque, Night Road, Phaze III, Burner Solid, Hustle AU]
*Now Testing* IQ Ruby, Renevant, another IQ Tour solid
Coming soon...???

beeks1305

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 56
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2015, 07:20:39 PM »
Great video! Do you think this would be a good choice for drier conditions to go under my vengeance?
« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 10:16:38 PM by beeks1305 »

Brickguy221

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9918
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2015, 08:23:17 PM »


I'm not a big fan of the late hook kind of shape of the Octane. In fact I had a Tribal Fire but after watching the videos and talking with some people it was too angular for me and I'm gonna exchange that ball either for the Shock or the Panic... Due To my low revs, I need a ball that can provide me with easy revs and something smoother and predictable for when the lane is over/under. Definitely the Octane is too angular for me. And also the Octane is stronger than the Panic I suppose, right? I need something as a step down for my Sting.

So between the Shock and the Panic, what would you suggest?

I'm a low rev guy also L3. I would be anxious to see how the Panic performs for you if you get one. I just wish they still made The Thrash Frenzy and then my problems for a ball in it's place would be solved. I thought the Octane would, but I was wrong there.  :(
« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 08:24:55 PM by Brickguy221 »
"Whenever I feel the urge to exercise I lie down until the feeling passes away"

scotts33

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8452
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2015, 08:51:44 PM »
Quote
I'm a low rev guy also L3. I would be anxious to see how the Panic performs for you if you get one. I just wish they still made The Thrash Frenzy and then my problems for a ball in it's place would be solved. I thought the Octane would, but I was wrong there.  :(

Jim--You picked the wrong ball to replace the TF which you found out.  From Motiv's website " The hybrid black and purple pearl cover on the Octaneâ„¢ is the new Agilityâ„¢ SFX (Skid Flip Xtreme) Reactive formulation. This new technology provides outstanding length and an absolutely explosive backend reaction. Factory finish is 5000 Grit LSP (Laser Scan Polished).

The average bowler will have a blast throwing the Octane deep down the lane and outside to the dry boards so they can watch it come screaming off the backend. Highly competitive bowlers will definitely fill a hole in their arsenal with this Octane. The easy length and steep angle at the backend will allow them to play a line that many others will not be able to touch."


I had a TF before the cover was iffy and I saw the same as you did.  Not a good comparison Octane to TF.  You will need something that reads earlier and is more arc like probably a GEAR core lower Rg ball would fill the bill.  I jsut got a Venom Shock or the Panic might fill that need depending on your stats., lane condition and layout/cover prep.

Just from what I have seen in a few games today with the Venom Shock is more than what I thought though many have said the same.  VS is pin in ring OOB surface lots of potential there.  I haven't used Motiv in over a year and their new stuff is much better cover wise than it was.  For me the Octane would be a good length skid flip ball for inside usage...the discontinued Sigma Sting Fusion Pearl cover lower Rg and bot as flippy would be more a TF replacement but overall probably a bit stronger than the TF Whiplash Pearl cover because of the more recent cover.

BTW....nice video Mike.  Your vids because of your technique I can relate to.   :)
« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 08:53:52 PM by scotts33 »
Scott

L3nn0n

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 415
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2015, 09:07:43 PM »


I'm not a big fan of the late hook kind of shape of the Octane. In fact I had a Tribal Fire but after watching the videos and talking with some people it was too angular for me and I'm gonna exchange that ball either for the Shock or the Panic... Due To my low revs, I need a ball that can provide me with easy revs and something smoother and predictable for when the lane is over/under. Definitely the Octane is too angular for me. And also the Octane is stronger than the Panic I suppose, right? I need something as a step down for my Sting.

So between the Shock and the Panic, what would you suggest?

I'm a low rev guy also L3. I would be anxious to see how the Panic performs for you if you get one. I just wish they still made The Thrash Frenzy and then my problems for a ball in it's place would be solved. I thought the Octane would, but I was wrong there.  :(

I think both the Shock or the Panic will be good for us, Shock being earlier and Panic a little late from what I've seen in the videos, it looks to me that it's like a Sigma Sting, but weaker, but still a predictable ball. I want to see more videos and read some reviews before I decide... I'm also thinking about getting both lol but I don't know if doing that will be kind of overlapping my arsenal...

By the way I thought about getting the Octane too, but that hockey stick motion is too unpredictable for me when is under/over, for me the ball looks a little jumpy and not forgiving for my style... I bet it's a good ball, just not a good one for me.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 09:14:05 PM by L3nn0n »

Brickguy221

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9918
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2015, 11:52:02 PM »
Scotts, I looked at the Sting before getting the Octane and since higher differental balls seem to work better for me, not all but most of the time, I feared the Sting might not be a good choice, thus I chose the Octane which was a mistake. The Sting couldn't have been any worse, but of coarse that is now hind-sight.  :(
"Whenever I feel the urge to exercise I lie down until the feeling passes away"

L3nn0n

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 415
Re: MOTIV Venom Panic Video Review
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2015, 12:11:02 AM »
Scotts, I looked at the Sting before getting the Octane and since higher differental balls seem to work better for me, not all but most of the time, I feared the Sting might not be a good choice, thus I chose the Octane which was a mistake. The Sting couldn't have been any worse, but of coarse that is now hind-sight.  :(

I've been using the Sting for a week now and seems like a pretty versatile ball to me. The OOB was too strong for me, but adjusting the surface is now a smoother ball, earlier hook and still pretty strong on the backend. I think it is a great ball and I'm looking forward too se more of the Panic

And about being a low rev, high speed bowler, my coach suggested me going with the low spectrum of RG balls, like the Revolt, Shock, Sting (which is more of a medium) because we need a little help with the revs, so since low rg balls start their move earlier that help the ball to go through the three phases, skid, hook and roll. That's what he said to me and for me going like that is working pretty good so far.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2015, 12:15:06 AM by L3nn0n »