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mattypizon

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Paranoia Is Coming
« on: January 23, 2016, 10:34:37 PM »
New cover and new core for the Motiv heads next!
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AMF300bowler

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2016, 12:14:08 PM »
>> I don't wanna sound like that ticked off AMF dude, but motiv is kinda big around here.

That "ticked off AMF dude" is going to a Motiv Test Drive at Royal Scot Lanes in Lansing on February 12th. I can't wait.
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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2016, 12:51:15 PM »
Quote from: AMF300bowler on January 27, 2016, 12:14:08 PM
>> I don't wanna sound like that ticked off AMF dude, but motiv is kinda big around here.

That "ticked off AMF dude" is going to a Motiv Test Drive at Royal Scot Lanes in Lansing on February 12th. I can't wait.

Hey man, its OK, those Utah bone heads tick me off all the time.  Like, when they stopped making the cell for a while! 

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bowlingman817

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2016, 02:33:11 PM »
If your not a staffer, the best thing to is try out all the different companies. Actually just picked up the Redline last week for $94 at bowlerdeals.com. Glad I did, ball looks awesome especially next to my green Pathogen and is a very strong and controlled hook for a pearl. I'm really enjoying it. Just not sure where this paranoia will fit in when there is already the Rage, Redline, Octane Burn and Venom Panic.
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johnkim

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2016, 09:21:34 AM »
Paranoia is selling at bowlingball.com for $153.95!

It's almost as expensive as Jackal Carnage... WOW!

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SVstar34

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2016, 09:32:52 AM »
Quote from: johnkim on January 28, 2016, 09:21:34 AM
Paranoia is selling at bowlingball.com for $153.95!

It's almost as expensive as Jackal Carnage... WOW!



I believe the Octane came out at 146.99. I'm not a fan of the price being that high for that type of ball when the competition is 110-130. Yes I know it may only be a $20-30 difference but bowlers see the price difference
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bowlingman817

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2016, 10:02:42 AM »
Quote from: SVstar34 on January 28, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: johnkim on January 28, 2016, 09:21:34 AM
Paranoia is selling at bowlingball.com for $153.95!

It's almost as expensive as Jackal Carnage... WOW!



I believe the Octane came out at 146.99. I'm not a fan of the price being that high for that type of hall when the competition is 110-130. Yes I know it may only be a $20-30 difference but bowlers see the price difference
I agree, that's a little pricey for a middle of the road ball. That as much as most other manufacturers high end releases.
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Bowler19525

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2016, 12:20:36 PM »
The price isn't all that surprising considering the ball is new core and cover tech from Motiv and slots just under the Primal Rage which sells for $159.  A price of $110-$130 would put it in the same category as the Tag and Venoms, but I think the Paranoia is intended to be a higher performing piece than those.
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Bernard Byars Jr

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2016, 01:15:55 PM »
When is the release date for the Paranoia?
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Bowler19525

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2016, 02:03:53 PM »
Quote from: Bernard Byars Jr on January 28, 2016, 01:15:55 PM
When is the release date for the Paranoia?

March 2nd
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johnkim

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2016, 03:40:22 PM »
I'm just curious.. typically, what makes it high performance ball?

If I may borrow the definition from bowlingball.com,
( 8 )  High Performance: This category will provide you with a wider variety of ball reactions for use on more challenging lane conditions.
(10) Pro Performance:Designed for very advanced bowlers. These balls are the newest in bowling technology.

Paranoia is high performance ball ( 8 ) according to bowlingball.com

Paranoia (#15) RG: 2.53 DIFF: .047 Flare: M-H
Octane   (#15) RG: 2.55 DIFF: .043 Flare: M

Not too much difference there...

Paranoia's breakpoint shape to be "Controlled Angularity"
I guess this is new technology, right?
« Last Edit: January 28, 2016, 09:01:14 PM by johnkim »
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spmcgivern

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2016, 03:50:46 PM »
In my opinion, it is marketing.

Though I am okay with "new" technology being considered high performance regardless of the amount of hook or backend it has. 

Re-issued old technology maybe not so much.
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Snakster

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2016, 09:34:23 PM »
Quote from: Bowler19525 on January 28, 2016, 12:20:36 PM
The price isn't all that surprising considering the ball is new core and cover tech from Motiv and slots just under the Primal Rage which sells for $159.  A price of $110-$130 would put it in the same category as the Tag and Venoms, but I think the Paranoia is intended to be a higher performing piece than those.
Not to pick nits but, the primal rage was 147 before the release of the remix.  Since remix was priced at 159, then suddenly and magically, the red primal was suddenly a $159 ball.  The paranoia occupies the same performance level as the Forzas which are both 125. As a reminder, the original Forza was a "new core and cover tech from Motiv" which slotted under the primal rage on the performance chart (albeit different shape).

So yes, the price is surprising. If it replaced the primal Rage, it wouldn't be surprising.
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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2016, 12:42:01 AM »
Idk but motiv does a great job, I'd support em, they're doing their best to stay in the USA, sign touring pros, giving young talent a shot.  They signed a lot of local guy's around here,

Charge what u wanna charge, motiv, just make sure you're pumping out the good stuff!

Like I said storm better have a home run in a box with the phaze for me, or else I'm joining the AMF dude and going to motiv haha
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spmcgivern

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2016, 07:27:49 AM »
If no one buys them, then they will change their pricing philosophy.  But if they are popular, then they are priced correctly.
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Stormroto22

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Re: Paranoia Is Coming
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2016, 07:53:53 AM »
People buy lane 1 stuff and look at the price of that
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