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Do you know your actual PaP... Positive Axis Point?

Scotts, it's almost a spinner.  I've forgotten my PAP, but it's a very low track with a lot of tilt.  On an old silver buzzsaw with a wt. hole on the PAP (I'm guessing the PAP is aroung 4 1/2 inches.  I could tell you my old PAP before I changed my release, but that would be of no use) the hole is almost at the direct top of the ball thru the midlane.  With this much tilt I'm not sure that the notion of axis rotation has any meaning. 

Joker, when I say like a spinner I mean it has a very low track.  As I understand it a spinner will have the holes at or near the top of the ball.  Not mine, just low track.  I've developed what I think is a sort of unique release (thumb at 3 fingers at 9, not turning my wrist just coming off the back of the ball sideways) that gives me this track. 

Joker, when I say like a spinner I mean it has a very low track.  As I understand it a spinner will have the holes at or near the top of the ball.  Not mine, just low track.  I've developed what I think is a sort of unique release (thumb at 3 fingers at 9, not turning my wrist just coming off the back of the ball sideways) that gives me this track.

I understand, I'm not sure what to call them besides low track so i put it as "spinners"