Well I don't have a Carnage to compare to, but I got a Paradox as a late Xmas gift and just drilled it up. Boy is that thing strong. Compared to my Covert Revolt, it was probably a good 5, 2 left. I know it was NOT on a fresh shot. I got a lane right after a 4 person league finished. I think I will definitely have to change surface and add polish to use it much on a house shot, because even my Covert is a lot of ball on our house condition.