Author Topic: SR2 Disappointment (Read 7100 times)

buildinazuk · « **on:** December 16, 2009, 11:58:10 PM »

Bought the SR2. This will probably be the only motiv product I buy. The ball has very little reaction. Totally disappointed. I basically have to play right along side of the gutter to hit the pocket. Had my pro shop sand it down to 1000. It rolled sweet for about 5 or 6 frames. After soaking in oil the back end reaction just stopped. Dont listen to all the hype. The same people are pimping these balls all over the internet. Should have known, but it's what I get for trying to support Local Michigan products. This ball isnt half the ball to my storm second dimension.

JustinWi · « **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:16:39 AM »

Before we go off the deep end here, please provide some information.

What is your speed and rev rate?

What is your axis point and track diameter?

What is the layout of the ball?

What condition and surface are you using it on?

There is hype for a good reason, but admittedly not everyone is going to nail it the first time around. If you provide some info, let's see what we can figure out.

im4x4nut · « **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:48:56 AM »

I second what " Inverted 1 " said. I have bought many a ball that just don't roll for me. More often than not a cover or drill change just doesn't work. I am selling 3 or 4 balls right now that just don't work for me.
"One mans junk is another mans treasure."

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golfnutFL · « **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:27:53 AM »

On a medium condition with relatively clean back-ends this ball is a monster. Sorry to hear yours doesn't match with you or your lane condition. Mine is a blast to bounce off of the dry.

PLM · « **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:50:21 AM »

Lots of good input here.
Keep in mind that a slight drilling change can make a huge difference. Case in point - a Rattler I had went from a spare ball (rolled almost like plasticto get it into the pocket I had to do what you did with your SR2-move all the way right) to a ball that has a lot of bite simply by plugging the fingers and moving them one inch to the left (4 inch pin to PAP instead of 5 - it also changed the location of the balance hole). It amazes me how such a small change can make such a big difference, but it does. Going from 2000 grit with polish to 1000 grit without it would also tame down the backend reaction a fair amount. Without that extra snap that polish provides, it could give you trouble getting to the pocket.

insidedrive · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:52:32 AM »

JustinWi asked all the questions I would.

I'm also sorry to hear yours isn't working out for you. Mine is unbelievable. Before I'd write Motiv off the map for your arsenal can you give us details on how it was drilled, what's your PAP and the details of how you bowl like he asked?

I'm not saying it's the drilling, but in my path of learning what my game needs I've gone through at least 3 or 4 balls that should've been beasts (black widow bite, Seek & Destroy, NVS) that all wound up being duds because the drilling was incorrect for my game.

I've been fortunate enough to own the GT1, SX1, TX1, SR2 & QZ1 and I've had great success with all of them.

Best of luck to you with whatever equipment you throw.

buildinazuk · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:38:52 PM »

The pin is right above my my right ring finger. I am a tweaner. I throw around 15mph and have a medium rev rate. Any ideas to make this ball work for me. I went to bowl a few practice games today and just cannot get this ball to do anything. I am trying but I have not ever had to work this hard to make ANY ball work. My AVG in league is a 196. I have been bowling for only a year and a half so I have alot to learn and alot of room to still improve. Anyone have any ideas to get this ball to work. Should I polish it up? I am looking for more back end so dulling it down was probably the wrong thing to do.

buildinazuk · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:47:32 PM »

I bowl on brand new synthetic lanes. I dont know enough about drilling balls to be able to tell you axis point and track diameter. I asked my proshop to drill to flip late. Another thing I noticed it how close the pin is to my finger hole. Should it be so close? There is no space between the pin and the hole.

OddBalls · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:49:51 PM »

quote:
The pin is right above my my right ring finger. I am a tweaner. I throw around 15mph and have a medium rev rate. Any ideas to make this ball work for me. I went to bowl a few practice games today and just cannot get this ball to do anything. I am trying but I have not ever had to work this hard to make ANY ball work. My AVG in league is a 196. I have been bowling for only a year and a half so I have alot to learn and alot of room to still improve. Anyone have any ideas to get this ball to work. Should I polish it up? I am looking for more back end so dulling it down was probably the wrong thing to do.

What's the lane condition like? Have you thrown any other balls on the SAME condition and had it work for you?

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buildinazuk · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:54:03 PM »

The condition is a normal house shot. yes I have thrown other balls with success on the same pattern. I also have a dimension second dimension and black widow bite.

JustinWi · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2009, 04:31:35 PM »

Where is the little CG punch?

If it is near the center of grip, a redrill is in order.

Is there a balance hole?

Is there any way you can get a picture of the ball up somewhere for a complete analysis and suggestion?

Swing the CG out to use drill angles in the 30-55 range to make these balls strong. Use P2 or P3 holes to fire them up even more.

charlest · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:17:48 PM »

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The condition is a normal house shot. yes I have thrown other balls with success on the same pattern. I also have a dimension second dimension and black widow bite.

You do know that basically giving no valid information.

What is Normal for you could be abnormal for 99% of all other people. If you don''t tell us what other balls and how they are drilled are working, EXPLICITLY, we can''t help you. You''re just whining here and not giving any real details that people have already asked you for.

Don''t blame you or your driller''s failure on Motiv after one experiment. That is so wrong. There are many people here willing to help you. Please let them, for your own sake.
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Edited on 12/17/2009 6:19 PM

JustinWi · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:37:34 PM »

Easy gents, he is admittedly newer to the game and not up on the super technical stuff.

A good pic is worth a thousand words, trying to do as much as I can for you. The SR2 is a great ball, and the lack of performance you are seeing is definitely unusual. There is a solution, and I strongly disagree completely writing off MOTIV is it.

nocarey · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:07:32 PM »

are they drilled similar to these?
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/motiv/Motivsdrilled112009.jpg

buildinazuk · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:51:37 PM »

i'll get a pick up for you guys.

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