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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: Gizmo823 on August 29, 2013, 02:54:23 PM
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Just saw this new release on Facebook. Thing looks awesome . .
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terrible name & logo
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Looks great, great core shape...shoulda called it the centripetal core! Oops
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The Motiv site has it listed as Dry/Medium oil ball. I thought they had that niche covered with the Accents.
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The Motiv site has it listed as Dry/Medium oil ball. I thought they had that niche covered with the Accents.
I'll go out on a limb and say - Same volume, different shape... for ~$65 more
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Looks great, great core shape...shoulda called it the centripetal core! Oops
Or the Marauder.
http://dv8bowling.com/balls/marauder-mutiny/
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The Marauder was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw it.
Looks great, great core shape...shoulda called it the centripetal core! Oops
Or the Marauder.
http://dv8bowling.com/balls/marauder-mutiny/
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Ball down from the Primal Rage same cover with new core. Rather than the low Rg Venom balls this is higher Rg with a medium total diff. This covers where the QZ balls were with a stronger cover and new core.
I am looking forward to seeing it and using it.
http://www.motivbowling.com/products/balls/tribal.html
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Looks like a direct competitor for the gold ball
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With the gold ball being a low RG, Low Diff Pearl with a strong cover? Sounds more like the Venom Toxin to me(other than the Toxin being a hybrid ;D ).
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Looks like a direct competitor for the gold ball
Motiv has no direct ball that you could compare a IQ Tour Pearl. No low Rg pearl with a strong cover. Of all the Motiv balls the closest would be a Thrash Frenzy in ball motion strong cover but higher Rg Quadfire core.
If Motiv ever comes out with a Sigma Tour Pearl that would be it's closer comparison.
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I was talking real world reaction. Not necessarily a direct mirroring of the numbers.
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I was talking real world reaction. Not necessarily a direct mirroring of the numbers.
That's what I am talking about since I have rolled most of the balls mentioned. The Thrash Frenzy right now is closest in ball motion to the IQ Tour Pearl. IF Motiv made a Sigma Tour Pearl with a lower RG and strong cover it would be a better comparison.
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Though it's no longer in production, the GT1 was probably Motiv's closest ball in core numbers and in general coverstock performance to the IQ Tour Pearl:
http://www.motivbowling.com/products/balls/gt1.html?retired=1 (http://www.motivbowling.com/products/balls/gt1.html?retired=1)
I suspect, however, that the GT1's coverstock is a degree or two weaker than the R2S on the IQTP.
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BTM numbers on
Thrash Frenzy Torque 7.5, length 15, backend 17.5 total hook 49
IQ Tour Pearl Torque 7.0, length 14, backend 16.5 total hook 51
Though not a complete comparison a place to start. I've rolled a IQ Tour Pearl and the two are a very close fit.
Fusion Pearl on Tribal will be stronger than Whiplash Pearl on Thrash Frenzy but total diff smaller.
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the venom toxin is not like the IQ Tour pearl? Low reg, medium low differential, pearl?
What am I missing?
Regards,
Luckylefty
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The Fusion Pearl cover from the Primal Rage combined with a new light bulb shaped core called the Halogen Core. That could be an interesting release.
Link: http://www.motivbowling.com/products/balls/tribal.html
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Watching them roll, their motion looks completely different. The Toxin is a smoother, more arc like reaction, and a lot cleaner through the heads. IQ TP is still really clean, but it picks up more in the midlane and is sharper on the back.
the venom toxin is not like the IQ Tour pearl? Low reg, medium low differential, pearl?
What am I missing?
Regards,
Luckylefty
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I just ordered their 2 vall pro shop pack. Can't wait to get them
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Like the colors looks kinda like the chalk and jigsaw sort of...bee cool to see this bad boy going down the lane...
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Looks like a direct competitor for the gold ball
Motiv has no direct ball that you could compare a IQ Tour Pearl. No low Rg pearl with a strong cover. Of all the Motiv balls the closest would be a Thrash Frenzy in ball motion strong cover but higher Rg Quadfire core.
If Motiv ever comes out with a Sigma Tour Pearl that would be it's closer comparison.
I'm not sure I agree with this statement......
Several months back, I drilled a pin-up Toxin which is one of my favorite Motiv balls to date. A few months later I drilled up an IQ Tour Pearl (before the Rage was announced) thinking I would get a more aggressive version of the Toxin. The two balls have the exact same pin length (3.25") and are drilled identically. It turns out the balls also react almost identically. Over any condition where I can reasonably use the IQ Pearl and the Toxin, they're virtually interchangeable.
I've since drilled up a Rage (same pin length and pin-up drill), and I got the more aggressive reaction I was looking for. The IQ Tour Pearl is redundant for me, so I'll probably play with the surface so I can get it between the Toxin and the Rage.
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I'm not sure I agree with this statement......
Several months back, I drilled a pin-up Toxin which is one of my favorite Motiv balls to date. A few months later I drilled up an IQ Tour Pearl (before the Rage was announced) thinking I would get a more aggressive version of the Toxin. The two balls have the exact same pin length (3.25") and are drilled identically. It turns out the balls also react almost identically. Over any condition where I can reasonably use the two balls, they're virtually interchangeable.
I've since drilled up a Rage (same pin length and pin-up drill), and I got the more aggressive reaction I was looking for. The IQ Tour Pearl is redundant for me, so I'll probably play with the surface so I can get it between the Toxin and the Rage.
You would know better than I Steven. But, I would have to believe the Toxin's Atomix Hybrid Radial Reactive is overall a weaker cover than R2S Pearl Reactive....yes/no? The numbers are close on both of their 15's respectively.
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You would know better than I Steven. But, I would have to believe the Toxin's Atomix Hybrid Radial Reactive is overall a weaker cover than R2S Pearl Reactive....yes/no? The numbers are close on both of their 15's respectively.
Yea, I got the IQTP based on the belief (assumption) that the R2S Pearl Reactive was a stronger cover, and therefore would result in the IQTP being a stronger ball. At least for me, that assumption didn't work out. I've had my several bowlers watch me throw the two balls to either confirm relative performance equity or tell me I'm full of it, and pretty much everyone confirmed what I was seeing.
If anything, I trust the Toxin's Atomix Hybrid a little more because it reads the wet/dry a little better than the shiny box IQ pearl cover. I've read several IQTP reviews saying you should rough it a bit to bring out it's best, and I see the logic. Sometimes comparative specs don't tell the whole story.