I went a bit longer pin to pap 3/4 inch more. I think they are a good 1-2 punch if you have oil. Honestly I couldn't be more impressed. I really like my Covert Revolt but I loved the look the vengeance gave me. It's not too often I wake up the next morning and am still thinking about it.
I think the vengeance is going to be one of those balls for me I won't be able to put down. It's rare that I throw one ball for a full set. This ball just kept coming from any angle. The Covert has great continuation but the vengeance was like another level. If I push a few out too far right, the Covert would come back and ring a 10 and I would know it instantly, I did it a few times last night and it was like the Vengeance went into another gear and tripped it. My pso bowls in the same league and he kept coming and watching it. He only got in one and I think he was sorry he didn't drill it for himself. Lol
The Ob surface didn't look polished at all. I always hit a new ball on my spinner so I know where its at. After I hit with a 4000 it really didn't look any different. The two revolts have very different shapes so having both is great. Im really happy with my move to Motiv except I haven't been thrilled with anything they have under the Shock. Didn't like the tribal fire and not crazy about apex.
I've been telling people that the Covert and Shock are two of the better balls I've ever owned with now the Vengeance possibly topping both. Amazing equipment.
