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vkowalski1970

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Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« on: October 08, 2014, 06:44:51 PM »
Really wanting to try Motiv. Been wanting too and never pulled the trigger. Looking to start with a Venom Shock. Where will it fit or replace on my arsenal? Arsenal in profile
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2014, 08:58:28 PM »
Quote from: vkowalski1970 on October 17, 2014, 08:46:36 PM
Terrible! Not the ball all me. Release changing every shot. Ball is cleaner than I expected, it's also a bit weaker than my hysteria with them both a 4000. But it rolls and finishes real nice.

Oh man that's the worst kind of night to have when testing something new out! We've all been there, thouthough. Wise of you to recognize that it's you and not the ball. Good luck and let us know how it goes!!
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2014, 09:08:39 PM »
I'm well aware I suck tonight. Lol. The ball when thrown correctly does roll nice.
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2014, 09:38:22 PM »
Much much better!!  I have struggled with carry all year, average down 12 pins so far. 705 tonight. Ball rolled great and carried great. Very impressed!!  Tribal fire next? Any opinions on how that will fit?
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2014, 11:26:03 PM »
The Tribal Fire is actually a pretty strong hybrid for that price point.  In fact, it is slightly stronger than the Venom Shock (51 vs 50 rating) although the motion will be a little different.  It's not a true skid/flip hybrid like the Octane (50 rating),  but will give a good combo of length and backend.   

It could work well but you may need to play with the surface or go with a slightly weaker layout.  You may be better off going with the original Tribal or potentially the Ascent Apex drilled stronger.  Both would give a more defined stepdown.

One thing I have noticed- the Motiv hook ratings used on their site match the BTM ratings that are used for their reviews.  For example, BTM had the Raptor Talon at 57, Motiv had it listed at 57. 
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2014, 12:08:47 PM »
I recommend drilling a sigma sting. Great benchmark reaction. I've went from bringing a different ball every week to using the sting every week.
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2014, 01:22:58 PM »
I really like the motion of the Venom Shock as a good benchmark. Also I'm not very successful with polished pearls. I'm higher tilt so I need the ball to read a bit sooner.
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2014, 02:42:33 PM »
It doesn't really roll that much like a typical shiny pearl. You have to remember that the fusion pearl coverstock os used all the way up to the motiv heavy oil balls like the cruel intent and the primal rage. That said i think you could make a good arsenal out of a revolt, shock and tribal fire. My plan is to go with revolt, bad ass, sigma sting and ascent apex as of now. Possibly a shock for tournaments as well...
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2014, 02:58:46 PM »
How is it compared to to the hysteria?
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2014, 03:33:58 PM »
The Hysteria at same surface is close with a bit sharper move. Too be honest and I can't believe I'm saying this but I think the shock is going to be more versatile and may replace it in my bag. I just trusted it immediately last night. It kinda of sits perfectly in between hysteria and nomad. Can replace both. They are all three very close. The shock being a just a bit smoother than both, but yet still a nice move to the pocket.
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2014, 08:19:37 PM »
Quote from: tdub36tjt on October 25, 2014, 12:08:47 PM
I recommend drilling a sigma sting. Great benchmark reaction. I've went from bringing a different ball every week to using the sting every week.

+1.  Best benchmark ball out there right now, and one of my favorite balls I've ever thrown.  That ball is the definition of versatility and is a killer on THS.  Also works great on tournament patterns.
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2014, 09:16:46 PM »
Just purchased a Tribal Fire. Oh boy!
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2014, 10:27:23 PM »
Quote from: vkowalski1970 on October 29, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Just purchased a Tribal Fire. Oh boy!

Sent you a PM about the fireball.
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Re: Where would a Venon shock sit in my arsenal
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2014, 08:56:43 AM »
What were the numbers for the Primal Rage, Octane, and the Sigma Sting?
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