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skbowl800

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Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« on: September 27, 2009, 11:20:36 AM »
Isn't this ball supposed to be polished?  Mine came dull!
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J_Mac

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 07:25:57 PM »
It's listed as 1000 abralon with their power gel polish finish on it, but the ones I have seen do not appear to be the "high gloss" polish that you see almost all the other companies do.

If that's what you were expecting to see, you wouldn't think it was polished either.
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skbowl800

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 08:04:44 PM »
yeah, looks like 1000 abralon to me
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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 08:31:02 PM »
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yeah, looks like 1000 abralon to me
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Find another piece that was freshly finished at 1000 abralon and look at how the overhead lighting is reflected/dispersed by that surface finish and then compare it to your GT1.

If the GT1 has any polish on it at all, the surface should reflect more light and you should see the overhead lighting more clearly.

This is a decent rule of thumb for comparing one surface finish to another.

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charlest

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 09:01:28 PM »
Supposed to be 1000 Abralon plus light coat of Power Gel.

I've found Power Gel by itself adds just a little length even when applied firmly. Much less length than any of the other polishes I have tried.
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TDC57

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 01:11:05 AM »
If you use Valentino's Resurrection you will duplicate almost exactly the finish that comes on the GT-1.
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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 03:24:50 AM »
Is the Power Gel a true, gritless polish, or a rubbing compound of some sort?
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charlest

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 06:13:32 AM »
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If you use Valentino's Resurrection you will duplicate almost exactly the finish that comes on the GT-1.


Not quite, but almost.
GT-1 is supposed to be 1000 grit Abralon (P1000 grit FEPA standard) which is 500 grit US. Resurrection's finish is 800 grit US or roughly P1600 grit FEPA.
That could be a slight difference for most people or it could be a big difference to others, depending on factors like ball speed.
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charlest

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 06:25:45 AM »
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Is the Power Gel a true, gritless polish, or a rubbing compound of some sort?
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I suspect it is what we would call a non-abrasive because of the results I got.


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TDC57

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 11:29:07 PM »
charlest,

I don't doubt you for a minute about what the factory surface is on the GT-1. It's just that the GT-1 I bought came with a surface that looked dull but had a slight shine when looking at it in different light. When I do mine with Resurrection I feel I get that same look to the surface.
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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 06:00:21 AM »
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charlest,

I don't doubt you for a minute about what the factory surface is on the GT-1. It's just that the GT-1 I bought came with a surface that looked dull but had a slight shine when looking at it in different light. When I do mine with Resurrection I feel I get that same look to the surface.


While the results you got may  work perfectly for you (and I admit I am almost splitting hairs here), its looks may not be exactly what you need or want.

Power Gel can and, as far as I have seen, will put a very light "shine" on a ball, and Resurrection, when used with a spinner, will do the same. I hope you have many 300s and 700s with it, but I'd like you to be aware that the finish is not the same as the Motiv stock one for that ball. I am not saying you did anything wrong. This is not a right or wrong thing.

I love Resurrection and it's an easy fix for many balls. I am shocked at how many balls work wonderfully with a surface created exactly as you did. Sometimes I have to be reminded to use it. I often start playing with abrasive/grit levels and polishes, when I realize later that all I needed was a single applicationof Resurrection.

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dizzyfugu

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 06:12:37 AM »
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While the results you got may  work perfectly for you (and I admit I am almost splitting hairs here), its looks may not be exactly what you need or want.


Yup. Just because of what a surface look like to the naked eye, the way of its texture after prep can have different reaction characteristics. Best example from my experiments is Brunswick's Rough Buff vs. high grit wet sanded surfaces or a shiny Finesse-It II vs. other glossy polishes. You might have the same ball with different preps and similar if not equal looks, but the reaction and utiliy can be way different. Then add the factor that what works for one player does not work another, and it become complicated...
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Brett A Spangler

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 06:05:48 PM »
The surfaces seem to vary a bit on this ball's box finish.  I loved my first one so much that I've drilled another.  They looked a little different, but that's not a big deal.  This shell is SO easy to tune!  Also, the Motiv cleaners and polish are fantastic for just that.
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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 10:52:45 PM »
Having drilled 4 GT1s and retired 2, the surfaces did vary slightly.  Not the underlying grit, but the final amount of polish.  1 came through semi shiny and 3 came through consistently shiny.

They have all rolled good, I did take one down to 1k Abralon.
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TDC57

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Re: Yay!!!! Just got my GT-1, wait a minute.....
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2009, 12:07:28 AM »
charlest,

I hope you aren't thinking I'm in disagreement with any of you statements and mad at my posts. I just was stating that the surface after Resurrection made the ball look the same as out of box. I also agree that how it looks to the eye doesn't mean it's the same. As a matter of fact I think I do get tiny amount of less reaction using the Resurrection than when the ball was new. I'm trying to figure out what would be the best choice for surface without using The Motiv Power Gel.
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