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Gene J Kanak

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Hey, if you're in the Chicagoland area, this may interest you. Fellow ballreviews.com user BBU and I, with the cooperation of an awesome local proprietor, are going to try to get a monthly KOH going at Victory Lanes in Kankakee. We have a couple different formats we're kicking around right now, which are:
 
4 Games of Qualifying
 Cut to Top 4
 Step Ladder Finals
 $35 Entry
 
6 Games of Qualifying
 Cut to Top 10
 2 More Games of Qualifying
 Cut to Top 5
 TV Finals
 
These would take place once a month on Sundays either late morning (10-11 a.m.) or early afternoon start. We haven't made final determinations on the prize fund, scratch vs. handicap, house shot vs. something trickier, etc., and that's why we're posting this now. If you are in this area, what would it take to get you and a car full of your buddies to make the trip once a month? We're here to listen. If you have a suggestion, please let us know. If you live in the vicinity and know that you'd be interested in being a part of these, let us know that as well. The more info we get the better we can make these! Thanks in advance for your input!
 


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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 07:07:31 PM »
These types of tournaments are difficult to run.  If you put out a house shot, people would say it's too easy.  You put a challenging shot out, people will complain it's too hard.  You run it as a scratch tournament, you won't get many entries.  You run it as a handicap tournament, people will complain about bagging and again, you won't get entries.  **I am not promoting the follow, this is being used as an example**  KOH scratch tournaments are run at Don Carter Lanes in Rockford, IL.  I know they ran it as a 3 gamer qualifying with a $25 entry fee which includes a drink ticket worth I believe $3.50 good at the bar or snack shop.  However, I don't recall what they cut to after qualifying, it may be 16.  They do go directly to head to head competition until the last one remains.  The first round if you lose, you go home.  No prize money.  If you lose the second match, you got an automatic entry into one of the remaining KOH's that year.  After that, you will get money.  If you survive all your matches then you bowl the prior weeks winner.  I can tell you from experience that if you win, it's nice to be able to come back the following week and bowl 1 game.  No matter what you are guaranteed to have a payout 2 weeks in a row or even more if you win the KOH match each week.  I would suggest to find out who runs scratch tournaments in the area such as Woody who runs the Boot Hill tournaments to see what their experiences are with entries.  I also believe there is a scratch tournament in Joliet occasionally at Town and Country bowl.  I do not know who runs the KOH at Don Carter but you may be able to find out if you contact the center.

 

  I do commend you and the proprietor for considering to run a monthly tournament.  I hope everything works out and have good turn outs when you decide to run it.



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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 07:33:18 PM »
I agree with Track Fanatic, this type tournament would be somewhat difficult to run successfully because you just can't please everyone. Personally, I would rather see you guys run this as a scratch tournament held on kegel/pba oil patterns. Since it would only be once a month, the prize fund needs to be significant to peak the interest of the scratch bowlers in the area. Maybe a $100 entry fee with side pots, brackets, and other things would do the trick.

 In terms of format, I would say a 6-game qualifier, cut to the top half of the field, 3 more games of qualifying (with pins carrying over), cut to the top 4, stepladder finals. Top half of the field cashes with a guaranteed $1000 first prize or more.

 Now, I would definitely consider driving the hour and a half once a month for something like this, especially during the spring and summer months. Also, you guys would really have to get out and spread the word.   

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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 11:23:37 PM »
I have a mock payout right now. We currently bowl a handicap traveling KOH tournament in the Danville area. The shot is a house shot on bone dry lanes. The centers are small and dont use a lot of oil. Its tough for us who are used to oil.
 
There is a nice KOH over in Dyer Indiana every Friday night. Eugene Mccune usually bowls it. It gets a nice turnout too.
 
We are looking at a $35 entry fee for $500 for first, paying the top 8, with 8th getting $50.
Also a $60 entry fee for $800 for first, paying the top 10, with 10th getting $80.
 
Both Gene and I have done these types of things in the past. Its just an idea to get something more regular going, as opposed to a one time tournament.
 
We are also looking a hosting a few other tournaments, such as a Plastic Ball tournament.
 
All of these will have side pots, doubles pots, brackets, raffles, split the pot, and ball giveaways.
 
With that said, look around at most sweepers and the ABT. Roughly a $30 entry fee for only $250 - $350 for first place.


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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2011, 06:11:16 PM »
We appreciate the comments/feedback. Please keep it coming. In response to you guys, yes, we know that we'll have our share of complainers. It's just the way of the bowling world around here these days; nevertheless, we're committed to getting the bowling scene more active, so we're going to try to come up with the best setup we can and give it a go!

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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 04:39:24 AM »
Gene and Tony, I sure hope you guys can get something going with this. I for one am in with any decision you guys make. I know across town there doing the KOH every Thursday, and the turn out isn't that good. I bowled in it a few weeks back and it sucked. Victory is right in my backyard, so it would be cool to get this going.  If you guys need any help at all, please let me know.



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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 06:39:02 AM »
Thanks for the offer, Dave. I guess the best thing you could do would be to mention the concept to the guys you bowl with. I think we'd have a much greater chance at success if we can get the word out to as many locals as possible. One of the biggest problems I've seen in our area is a lack of support/participation from the locals. If we can get them on-board, I think we'd have a shot at attracting some out-of-town guys and really building it into something sustainable.


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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 08:58:28 PM »
 Are these getting close to starting? Been keeping an eye on this thread hoping that they would start in the near future. The pro shop I work with and my coach/mentor was in Kankakee for a short time a few years back. Please let us all know when these kick off!

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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 09:08:08 PM »
Gene, any news about this if it's gonna happen?



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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 09:14:19 PM »
This will absolutely happen. Gene and I spoke last night. We are gearing these more towards the end of bowling season, through the Summer time. We are however looking to host the Plastic Ball tournament sometime around March.

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Re: Attn: Illinois Bowlers - Monthly King of the Hill coming to Kankakee
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 06:41:06 AM »
Thanks for taking care of the initial replies, Tony. Yes, we are still planning to get these rolling. It's not really a matter of if; it's a matter of when.


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