Post by: Hoselrockets on February 07, 2011, 09:52:35 PM
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Post by: Sikfish on February 08, 2011, 07:17:24 AM
I have not bowled, but have heard.....yes, they are hooking. Believe it is a wood/guardian surface and they are using the white #2 pattern. Transitions very, very fast. .....220-230's are winning alot of brackets. Again, just what I heard, but a reputable group gave me the info.
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Post by: completebowler on February 08, 2011, 09:26:30 AM
Shot 233, 266, out of the gate and then couldn't move any further left. Shot 188. Still took down quite a few brackets since the pace is so low.
Teams was a combination of a bad cross and the pattern not being layed down true. Last game of team event I counted 15 sub 150 games over the 12 teams around me and only 4 people broke 200 on those same lanes.
Really ugly overall. I didn't throw it my best, shot 1804 all events but had 1279 for doubles/singles. 515 was a middle of the pack number up there for teams. Biggest issue for me was checking out mentally. Got frustrated when the team we crossed with blew a hole in the pattern around 12-13 board. They were lower end bowlers who started throwing urethane right up the middle at the pocket. Between that and the bad break playing against the wall for the first 6 I had had enough....lol.
Hopefully they address some of the issues and not everyone sees what I witnessed. Doubles and singles should not be bowled on 1-2 and 21-22 imo due to the disadvantage those players will have.
BTW, I used my SR2 up the boards (around 8) when scoring well. A milder ball if you have hand in this part of the lane will be wonderful. Use a stronger ball if more speed dominant.
Also, talk to your teammates about burning a spot at 5-6 during practice. It will make it play like a house shot imo.
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Post by: David Lee Yskes on February 08, 2011, 12:44:12 PM
I heard the same this past weekend from a few fellow bowlers, when I was @ a PBAX tourny, and we happend to be on the WHite pattern lol..
they said the heads went very fast and it was stupid how much the lanes were hooking..... and after that the lanes just got plain ugly..... plus i guess one of the places was kinda ghetto too lol, and very tight quarters for 5 / 10 guys plus the equipment.......
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Post by: completebowler on February 08, 2011, 01:03:19 PM
Yeah the centers were both sub-par imo. The guy who organized our squad is an association president and I told him I would most likely be sending a letter or email to the state director. Seemed like it had to have been a favor to a friend to have such a big tournament is two such cramped and outdated facilities.
good luck to anyone who goes....probably will need it.
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Post by: Hoselrockets on February 09, 2011, 01:35:23 PM
Good group of guys from my area are heading to bowl the states this weekend and hopefully we can get a good report. I will post on what they say.
THB
Post by: pneumatic on February 11, 2011, 08:12:35 AM
Our group won't be heading there until the second to last week of the tournament so I will be interested to see if anything changes. I have bowled at Lefevre many years ago and was not really impressed back then.
Post by: Hoselrockets on February 13, 2011, 09:15:19 AM
Don't exact details but they went with 4 teams and bowled team event twice yesterday and now have the top 8 scores for team. First teams to break the 3000 mark. Hopefully I can get some more information.
THB
Post by: SleepOnIce on February 19, 2011, 05:33:15 PM
I went up to bowl in the Team event a few weeks ago and I can't believe they thought it would be an acceptable place to hold this tournament. There is almost no room in the settee area so practice was uncomfortable trying to get from lane to lane. The lanes did hook a lot, and the scoring pace was very low. I bowled horrible (540ish) and still managed to win a few brackets. I couldn't get the ball off my hand right all day so I can't comment too much on how much the lanes were transitioning.
Overall not a great experience for me, being a combination of bowling bad and the choice of bowling center. Am going back up in April, so I'll see how it goes then.
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Post by: LotsaBalls on February 19, 2011, 08:44:29 PM
I am from Saginaw and was very surprised that we got to hold this tournament. Both the owners of these center put the bare minimum in to them, just enough to keep them running. I bowled the very first day of the tournament both and found both houses to play rather tight down lane,especially the team house. I bowled D and S again today and they were not even close to what they were when I bowled before. They hooked so much the balls I used last time( Nomad Dagger and Reign Supreme) were not even usable. I had to call my wife to bring me more balls and was using a well used Sonic X and was playing 5 arrow in game 3 of doubles. I questioned several officials and the house manager about them altering the shot and of course I got nothing from anyone. I am very disappointed to say the least and I plan on investigating this further. I am going to request to see the lane graph when they pull tape next week( they only do it once a month from what I was told ) because I saw the graph from the first day of the tournament. I suggest that everyone that has any complaints about there experience that you contact a state official and voice your opinion. The worst state tournament of my life and I embarrassed that it is in my home town, if I told you I am surprised I would be lying.
Post by: completebowler on February 19, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
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Post by: applegam on February 20, 2011, 04:41:42 AM
I could not disagree more with this. It sounds like the shot has been pretty brutal. But for the sake of integrity, the pattern should stay the same from the first day of the tournament to the last.
Post by: axeweldr on February 20, 2011, 06:02:16 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on February 20, 2011, 06:44:11 AM
That's interesting. Michigan allows bowlers from other State associations to bowl in their State tourney? axewelder do you purchase a State sanction to bowl in it?
"I bowled D and S again today and they were not even close to what they were when I bowled before."
How do you bowl Minor events more than once? This is allowed in this State tourney? Weird.
Scott
Post by: Hoselrockets on February 20, 2011, 08:40:47 AM
THB
Post by: Hoselrockets on February 20, 2011, 08:42:32 AM
I didn't know that people could drive to other state tourney's? Welcome...
THB
Post by: axeweldr on February 20, 2011, 08:54:55 AM
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Post by: Hoselrockets on February 20, 2011, 09:17:45 AM
THB
Post by: Hoselrockets on February 20, 2011, 09:19:37 AM
You can bowl each event twice but your first 3 games count for your all event score.
THB
Post by: scotts33 on February 20, 2011, 09:20:31 AM
http://www.mistatebowl.com/statetournament/2011_Entry_Form.pdf
Yes you can enter from out of state. Yes you can bowl team and D & S twice.
Sorry you guys can't come up to WI. Unless you are not a member of another State assoc. and/or bowl a minimum of 21 games have an average from a WI state chartered association. You can only bowl team and D&S once. 
http://wibowl.com/Forms/State%20Entry.pdf
Scott
Post by: AlBundy33 on April 01, 2011, 09:09:08 AM
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Post by: LotsaBalls on April 01, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
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Post by: completebowler on April 02, 2011, 09:59:10 AM
I guess my bigger concern is the overall health of the tournament. Yes, it is unfair for the guys who went early but I think if they were to tweak the shot at least not everyone would be upset. I don't want to see the conditions I bowlers on drive people away from doing this tournament in the future.
Anyhow, patterns change on their own. I bowled in late January. Very cold and lots of snow outside. Guys that bowl in May when it cracks 70 degrees will see something that plays completely different.
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Post by: AlBundy33 on April 06, 2011, 06:27:01 AM
Great.....site of probably the biggest debacle I've ever seen, and it has nothing to do with Nortel or the Monroe Sports Center. LOL.
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