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wildbush300

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Tournament Attendance Down
« on: October 27, 2008, 12:44:02 AM »
Do you think the economy has alot to do with the decline in entries for local tournaments?

Just wanted to talk about this today, with yet another declining day on Wall Street.

Yes we all have regular attendees that participate in the tournaments but have we gotten down to just the core tourney bowlers who are committing funds to tournament play.   That is about 25 bowlers per event and maybe another 10 who trickle in and out?

Are we heading into a recession where those access funds are just to precious to take a chance?  

I dont know for sure, but I see a definite trend right now, what about you?
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Re: Tournament Attendance Down
« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2008, 02:09:12 PM »
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Re: Tournament Attendance Down
« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2008, 02:13:00 PM »
MSB,
The ones who have quit all together are at least even from a financial standpoint when it comes to bowling.  90% of the guys chasing tournaments for the last 5 years are down.  You can't knock them for seeing the writing on the wall before us.

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« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2008, 02:32:40 PM »
I referencing those that say they are quitting because bowling is blah blah blah now. You cannot change a thing sitting at home complaining next to the TV.
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Re: Tournament Attendance Down
« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2008, 02:34:33 PM »
MSB is right when he says we're not hungry anymore.  We're just not.  After York last weekend I was in the bar with my friends from college and just asked, "When was the last time you guys had fun bowling?" everyone's answers were last time they bowled collegiately.  Local area tournaments just have a dreadful despair in the air as soon as you walk into a center.  Not because the tournament itself is bad, just the atmosphere just seems like you're going to a wake instead of going to compete.  Add the finances on top of that and hey, I'd rather be at a bar or working on sunday and watching football than throwing a bowling ball when mentally I know I don't feel like it.  I guess the bowlers of my generation just got tired of paying to "go through the motions" than actually waking up and going to a tournament with the intentions of winning it like it was when we were all youth.  When you couple that with the "Poker Boom", the forecast for competitive bowling doesn't look too good despite the great efforts by a few.
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Re: Tournament Attendance Down
« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2008, 10:38:54 PM »
I would like to thank Tony And Jeff for just tiring to keep tournaments alive because without that hope of bowling tournaments in this area I believe what little bowling we have left it would just fade away. I remember bowling tournaments on Friday nights where you would only have a handful of people show up (15-20) so I believe it may not be the big turnout at the tournaments now but it is better then having no tournaments at all. I wish that I had the time to support my local tournaments however, I have been injured and also I have enrolled myself back into college to further my career. Now since reading this posting I will try to hit one or two tournaments in my area just to see how good I am or just how bad I am at bowling, but it will be when my finals are finish at school.

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Re: Tournament Attendance Down
« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2008, 05:35:04 AM »
Jeff,

Please do not take my response as a way of me saying tournament directors need to give back.  I think tournament directors should take more.  I was just giving suggestions on ways for tournament directors to run more tournaments, make more money for themselves, draw more entries and have decent prize funds for the bowlers.  Ideas such as having less lineage with simple formats.  But formats that will allow more side action.

I think you need to stop worrying what the final cash spot is going to pay.  If you are going to a tournament in hopes of doubling your money for finishing in 15th place then you shouldn’t be bowling.  I think paying 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 with side action is the preferred method for the serious bowlers.

WABullets.

You’re crazy, brackets are the best thing that ever happened to bowling!  Yes, there are less entries these days but imagine how fewer entries there would be without any brackets.

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« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2008, 08:28:35 AM »
GIB - My point about not cashing for what you paid to enter addresses your main concern, the so called donaters. There can only be one winner in anything we do so paying better top to bottom makes more people happy then top loading it completely and upsetting all that finished behind the top spot.

DJ - I know what you mean about the atmosphere when you compare it to "team bowling" and the feel. It's the same reason you here the guys older then you still talking about the good ole days when we bowled Team Challenge.

Now the people who ran WTC knew how to make money running a tournament!!! TNBA does a pretty good job at it too!!!
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Re: Tournament Attendance Down
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2008, 01:49:13 PM »
I definitely took entries for granted when I ran tournaments in the 80's and early 90's.

Just not sure where to go from here.

Back then, everyone was happy but bowling ball technology and lane conditions weren't much of an issue

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Re: Tournament Attendance Down
« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2008, 08:06:10 AM »
quote:

Now the people who ran WTC knew how to make money running a tournament!!! TNBA does a pretty good job at it too!!!




both of those entities have/had created an incredible "brand" and the people flock to that brand loyally/religously from all over. How the create(d) that "brand", I dont know but sure wish the could share the secret. TNBA never seem to be short of participants at their events, handicap or scratch.