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bowling centers in NJ
« on: March 12, 2007, 01:00:34 PM »
What's happening to all the bowling centers in NJ, closing left and right, and where did the bowlers from these centers go to?

For example:  
Roosevelt lanes (CLOSED)
Garden State (CLOSED)
Belle Aire (CLOSED)
Parkway (CLOSED)
Strike and Spare (RUMORED TO BE CLOSING)
Carolier (RUMORED TO BE CLOSING)
thats over 200 LANES. And I may have missed some.
All these centers had VERY GOOD PRO SHOPS where did they go?

I'VE BEEN OUT OF THE AREA FOR ABOUT 1 YEAR AND I CAME BACK TO THIS!!!!!
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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2007, 12:20:21 PM »
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Jeff,

Here's the latest (only time will tell if these are/come true).

Midstate has re-signed their lease (no Gold's Gym) and will be there for some time.  Yeah! This is one of my favorites houses.

Now on to our favorite place, Strike & Spare (Jeff is correct about your averaging dropping like a lead balloon here (my average is 20 pins less at this house)).  They were looking for space within a few miles each way on Rte 22 to build a new 70+ lane center. Here's the new word on the street.  Landlord has come down on the price of the land and is "throwing" in the property with the trees to the left.  AMF will update the entire place, including new lanes.  They will use the additional property to expand and build another 24 lanes.  Rumor has it that have already ordered new ball returns to replace the non-working ones.  Like I said before, only time will tell if this is true.

Even if it is and we get new lanes, etc we still have to deal with the mindset of catering to the "open bowlers" and not league/serious bowlers.  The conditions will still be horrendous for the leagues, I'm sure.


Js if they wont care of you take the ride up to Hy-way bowl we have the sweetest shot around, not the nicest looking place around  but we let you play.
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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2007, 10:28:25 PM »
Hey Lonce, how are you?  I may have to take you up on that

Somerset county has nothing really.  We have Strike & Spare and Manville.  It's a given that if you want something decent you have to travel out of county.

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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2007, 11:01:34 PM »
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Jeff,

Here's the latest (only time will tell if these are/come true).

Midstate has re-signed their lease (no Gold's Gym) and will be there for some time.  Yeah! This is one of my favorites houses.

Now on to our favorite place, Strike & Spare (Jeff is correct about your averaging dropping like a lead balloon here (my average is 20 pins less at this house)).  They were looking for space within a few miles each way on Rte 22 to build a new 70+ lane center. Here's the new word on the street.  Landlord has come down on the price of the land and is "throwing" in the property with the trees to the left.  AMF will update the entire place, including new lanes.  They will use the additional property to expand and build another 24 lanes.  Rumor has it that have already ordered new ball returns to replace the non-working ones.  Like I said before, only time will tell if this is true.

Even if it is and we get new lanes, etc we still have to deal with the mindset of catering to the "open bowlers" and not league/serious bowlers.  The conditions will still be horrendous for the leagues, I'm sure.


John,

Regarding Strike and Spare, Maybe that's good news, Maybe not.

I'm not joining one darned (to be polite) new league and giving them a red cent of my money until I see new synthetics AND I see the results of them actually taking care of the lanes. I have suffered too long there, since 1995; I can't tell what bowling there has done to my game.

Right now I am subbing there at th erequest of some friends, but that prevents me from bowling elsewhere that night. I won't be doing that next year.

Even as bad as Carolier is now (no real oil), it's still highly preferable.

Glad Midstate, that is good news. Maybe I can join you in a league next year OR this Summer, if you can stand bowling with me. Even if they oil very lightly, they still oil regularly and they have synthetics.

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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2007, 06:17:11 PM »
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I remember OJ, Teata and Tommy,
but I never heard of anyone named Lonce
you said he moved to a new location
a year ago, I've been out of the loop
for over a year, who is he and where was he before?

I also remember the guy at Roosevelt lanes they said
that he was the best. This was about 3-4 years back,
and if I'm not mistaken he was related to the girl at
Garden State, Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Where are they now that both centers are closed.
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Mike Foti?
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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2007, 11:01:58 PM »
THANK YOU   MR. BASS.

I HAVE BEEN OUT OF JERSEY FOR ALMOST 2 YRS AND
I COULDN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME, AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN
HE IS RELATED TO THE GIRL WHO WAS AT GARDEN STATE.


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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2007, 09:00:33 AM »
Well, it may appear that my info on MidState was wrong.  I just saw a message on pba.com that says MidState will close on May 6th, 2007.  Anyone else have any info?

Jeff....you have a pm.

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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2007, 10:47:24 AM »
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Well, it may appear that my info on MidState was wrong.  I just saw a message on pba.com that says MidState will close on May 6th, 2007.  Anyone else have any info?

Jeff....you have a pm.


ALmostguaranteed. I spoke to an AMF manager last night. Closing date is May 5th. Property owner wants $200K per year for the lease and AMF thinks that's too much.

Also heard AMF is buying the property under Strike and Spare and will install another 24 lanes. Time will tell. I still won't give SnS a freaking penny until they install synthetics AND they prove they can take of the lanes AND the customers.

Still like Midstate over SnS in center maintenance and in the way they treat customers.
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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2007, 11:57:32 AM »
Is Manville lanes still open, I thought I heard that placed closed a while ago.  The Edison Brunswick rumor has been floating around for a very long time anything definate.

To clear up my last post, I did not say that SNS was one of my favorites, I said that some of my old favorites were Greenbrook & Echo Lanes for thoses that remember them.

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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2007, 12:08:05 PM »
Carolier is a Brunswick house, does anyone know anything about other
local Brunswick alleys closing?  Such as Woodhaven Lanes, Queens ?

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« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2007, 01:32:31 PM »
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Is Manville lanes still open, I thought I heard that placed closed a while ago.  The Edison Brunswick rumor has been floating around for a very long time anything definate.

To clear up my last post, I did not say that SNS was one of my favorites, I said that some of my old favorites were Greenbrook & Echo Lanes for thoses that remember them.


Oh, yea, Greenbrook Lanes. Now I remember it. Across the street from SnS. AT its end it was pretty run down. Last bowled there in 1987 or so, using a pin on axis Black Hammer.

I think Manville is still open. I was there twice, once for the Vargo in 1985 or so, when John Vargo, in his special tournament used 5 lb pins and put out a reverse block. YOu were thrilled to average 150. The pin setters kept dropping the pins, they were so heavy. Last time I went there was when I first moved to Somerset County; it was still one of the most awful places to bowl. In the last 15 years since I have never set foot in the place. People tell me it's still not a nice place to bowl. I think it's called Ten PinLanes.
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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2007, 04:39:01 PM »
Sad thing about Mid-State! it wasn't the best but it is not the worst.

I heard through the grapevine that AMF is rumored to open a brand new

center where Garden State Bowl is or was. is there any truth to that?

And as for Carolier I said in my 1st post that it was a rumored to be closing

not that it is closing.  
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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2007, 06:01:38 PM »
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Sad thing about Mid-State! it wasn't the best but it is not the worst.
I heard through the grapevine that AMF is rumored to open a brand new
center where Garden State Bowl is or was. is there any truth to that?
And as for Carolier I said in my 1st post that it was a rumored to be closing
not that it is closing.  
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Can't provide any info about Garden State.

Carolier is not closing but will not, as far as I have learned, host the US OPen any more. It's too costly without enough return.

Lee Livingston still owns Carolier, err, "Brunswick Zone at Carlier". AFAIHL, he is leasing the building and property to Brunswick. When the lease is over he still owns it.

Lee is a friend to bowling. Always has been; always will be,

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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2007, 09:21:05 PM »
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Sad thing about Mid-State! it wasn't the best but it is not the worst.

I heard through the grapevine that AMF is rumored to open a brand new

center where Garden State Bowl is or was. is there any truth to that?

And as for Carolier I said in my 1st post that it was a rumored to be closing

not that it is closing.  
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NOT!!!!!!!


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Re: bowling centers in NJ
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2007, 03:29:58 PM »
The rumor that has been floating around for a while was that Edison Brunswick is going to become a nightclub for the new inhabitants of the community.

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« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2007, 12:21:03 AM »
The story I heard was that he only bought the lanes to get the liquor license so he could open a club.