Author Topic: BW Summer Classic $3,000 1st Place GUARANTEED (Read 9539 times)

walt8398 · « **on:** March 09, 2008, 11:23:29 AM »

I am pleased to announce that we are having a major scratch event this summer! The event will be called the BW Summer Scratch Classic and will take place August 23rd & 24th at Brunswick Zone Perry Hall Lanes in Baltimore, MD and feature a GUARANTEED 1st place prize of $3,000!

Tournament format:

â€¢ Entry fee will be $140 ($120 prize fund, $20 lineage) CASH ONLY
â€¢ Cash ratio 1:5
â€¢ (2) 8 game qualifying squads (9am & 4:30pm). Re-oil after 9am squad. (Re-entries will be permitted on the 4:30pm squad if space is available) Pins carry over from qualifying
â€¢ Finalists will come back on Sunday (8/24) for 7 games of round robin match-play. 50 bonus pins for every match won. The 7th game will be a position round game. The bowler with the highest total pinfall with bonus pins will be the tournament champion.

Brackets, survival boards (aka eliminators), high game pots, high game of the day and a last game (8th game) pot. We will also give the top 2 bowlers on each squad a Columbia300 ball (courtesy of Columbia300) and pay high senior (50 and over) & high female out of the money prizes.

I will be working with the center on a pattern that will allow all styles to be in play. The pattern will be posted on our website (www.vmsbt.com) once it is determined.

We have to limit qualifying squads to 88 bowlers per squad due to Perry Hallâ€™s large Rock & Bowl turnout after the 4:30pm squad is done. I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO EMAIL OR CALL ME TO RESERVE YOUR SPOT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. DONâ€™T GET SHUT OUT OF THIS EVENT!

Email: vmsbt@comcast.net

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Tony Walton
Columbia 300 Regional/Amateur Staff Member
VMSBT Tournament Director
http://www.vmsbt.com

Mr Straight Ball · « **Reply #76 on:** August 25, 2008, 01:48:24 PM »

Stephen, I feel a tear running down my cheek.

Bro I know you aren't grasping, you are a competitor. You might not bowl everything but when you can you do come out and lace 'em up. If we had more folks willing to compete, the local tournaments could have 50+ easily.

VMSBT, 40 Boards & Triple Threat might need to start stealing from the bowlers, that seems to be the formula for drawing entries. And the best part, people don't even know they are being stole from because they don't do the math.
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Baker...Why doesn't my ball h

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40 Boards & A Ball Tournament Director
www.40boards.com
The left sucks & the right is wide open! R.I.P. Brizmo 6/15/08

Mike L · « **Reply #77 on:** August 25, 2008, 02:19:26 PM »

Yeah I know alot of people won't get in all and its not because I have deep pockets, its because thats how I make money in tournaments, but just take Hahn for example, im sure he probably didn't get in all, but he probably cleared $800-$1200 profit this weekend, you gotta finish top 2 to profit that much. I just cannot understand what these guys are thinking.
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"Typical House Bowler"

CBass1724 · « **Reply #78 on:** August 25, 2008, 02:29:23 PM »

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I saw at least 3 people who live in Baltimore or the York area who traveled to NJ to bowl the regional. What were you thinking??? I know, let me spend $275 to enter, $3.50 a gallon, tolls, 4 or more hours of driving round trip and possibly a hotel bill as well. Follow this breakdown of how you could have stretched your dollar and played for $3,000 up top, thatâ€™s $500 more then the regional by the way. Did I mention the entry fee was $135 less then the $275 you spent to bowl against some exempt guys and life long regional players?

1.   Filled your car up from empty
2.   Ate breakfast at Bob Evans
3.   Paid the $140 entry to bowl the same 8 games you bowled in NJ
4.   Entered the game pots, last game pot and 4 survival boards
5.   Ate lunch or dinner at Original Steak House & Sports

If you bowled the 9am squad, you could have done all of this and been home long before the sun set too. And by my calculations, you would still have between $30-50 in your pocket. Welcome to the PBA!

^ ^ ^ THIS ^ ^ ^

Quick, somebody cross post this on the East PBA and South PBA message boards.
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C.J.

Mr Straight Ball · « **Reply #79 on:** August 25, 2008, 02:40:24 PM »

I am supporting the PBA guys who want to live the dream man. Let them walk in the darkness.

walt8398 · « **Reply #80 on:** August 25, 2008, 05:04:56 PM »

eRICOB

Don't take offense to the PBA post directly. That was directed mainly at the MD/Southern PA/DE bowlers who bypassed an event in their backyard to bowl the regional. Economically, it made no sense to bypass this past weekends tournament. I was a PBA member from '88-'99 & '02-'05. So, I know all about chasing the "dream". There was plenty of good competition and money to be made at this event is all we are trying to point out.

Next year's event will be the same weekend with the same top prize and/or more added money.
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Tony Walton
Columbia 300 Regional/Amateur Staff Member
VMSBT Tournament Director
http://www.vmsbt.com

Mr Straight Ball · « **Reply #81 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:03:16 PM »

Walton, thank you for clarifying that for "eRICOB" because in his case it would be crazy to drive 2 hrs when he could have bowled at home and in his case gone home to see his daughter.

I do have a question eRICOB, why is it that I hear regional players say they bowl for the competition? And at the same time they cry the economy is bad so they need to win some money. Are the regionals the only place a bowler can find competition? I ask that because there are megabuck champs & runner-ups, regional champs, military champs, National Amateur Champs and former Team USA members bowling local tournaments.
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Baker...Why doesn't my ball h

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40 Boards & A Ball Tournament Director
www.40boards.com
The left sucks & the right is wide open! R.I.P. Brizmo 6/15/08

Mr Straight Ball · « **Reply #82 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:19:10 PM »

You did the right thing, don't pass a tournament to get to another one. Maybe we'll see you at Opposites Attract mixed doubles next June and/or the BW in Aug.
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Baker...Why doesn't my ball h

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40 Boards & A Ball Tournament Director
www.40boards.com
The left sucks & the right is wide open! R.I.P. Brizmo 6/15/08

I_Bowl4Money · « **Reply #83 on:** August 25, 2008, 11:44:17 PM »

Tony,

I have to throw this out there to the BR folks.

I feel the 50 bonus pins is too much. The reason I say this is for 2 reasons:

1) It is luck of the draw for match play which I think gets magnified with the bonus pins. It shouldn't be where luck of the draw dictates the tournament outcome.

2) If a bowler quits or gets injured and is forced to leave the tournament, bowlers that are supposed to be bowling that person get free bonus pins when half of the rest of the field doesn't.

I would petition for 25 or 30 bonus pins max. What is everyone else's opinion?

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Stephen Hahn

http://www.bowl4money.com (Personal Site)

http://www.sparesproshop.com (Staff)

superlefty800 · « **Reply #84 on:** August 26, 2008, 07:34:19 AM »

I'll be the first to respond to your question Stephen. Originally I was not a fan of the 50 bonus points when it first used at his monthly tournaments years back. There have been times where I qualified high and then didn't have a great match-play record and dropped near the bottom. But there have also been times where I barely made the cut and then got dialed in and ended up winning or given myself a chance at winning thanks mainly to the bonus pins. I will say that the 50 bonus pins gives everyone a chance to win going into the finals and puts the importance in winning matches. From a spectator's point of view it makes for an exciting finals.

The one think I would consider changing for next year's B/W tournament is add more games on Sunday. I realize bowling everyone in the finals isn't going to happen but I would like to at least bowl half of them. I personally would have like to have bowled 10 games of match-play. That would have still put the out of towners on the road at 1:30-2pm.
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Chris Johnson
Storm Amateur Staffer

Dbum · « **Reply #85 on:** August 26, 2008, 09:13:13 AM »

I agree with you CJ..More games on Sunday. Kenny was saying the same thing.
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Darnell "DBum" Bell

walt8398 · « **Reply #86 on:** August 26, 2008, 10:24:38 AM »

Stephen

You definitely aren't the first one to mention the 50 bonus pins. As CJ pointed out, it makes the match-play interesting. It puts a premium on winning your matches and basically eliminates guys just giving away matches without any repracussions (which we all know used to happen during our days of bowling regionals in the old match-play format with 30 bounus pins). As a far as the guy withdrawing during match play, not really anything I could do at that point. But I will think on that to how to handle that in the future. My hope is that we won't have that happen too often.

We will add more games of match-play next year. I am keeping track of everyone's suggestions and will make the changes accordingly for next year's event. As you guys know, I'm open to ideas but the 50 bonus pins is going to stay (sorry bro

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Tony Walton
Columbia 300 Regional/Amateur Staff Member
VMSBT Tournament Director
http://www.vmsbt.com

DP3 · « **Reply #87 on:** August 26, 2008, 10:32:38 AM »

Maybe to boost a little participation in the regular VMSBT events, the points race winner or winner & runner up if possible could get a free entry into "The Big One"?

Kudos on a great tournament. Definately one of the smoothest ran and professional events I've ever seen ran for the volume of entries. It was fun & I definately learned alot.
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-DJ Marshall
...The Twelve In a Row Pro Shop. AMF Bowie Lanes -- Bowie, MD

Mike L · « **Reply #88 on:** August 26, 2008, 11:05:17 AM »

LOL yeah mikey felt bad for you chris, he saw all those - in the bonus section on your scorecard lol

I agree more matches will be good, but the 50 bonus is needed to give everyone a chance, thats why I say something should be paid to the leader that way if they do happen to lose a few matches and drop a few spots they at least get something for leading. Even at the regular VMSBT events, the leader get $25 and 25 points. 10-12 games of match play would be good.
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"Typical House Bowler"

superlefty800 · « **Reply #89 on:** August 26, 2008, 11:06:08 AM »

I didn't know anyone W/D. I just looked at the stats and I see Caruso quit. Was he hurt or did he just quit?
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Chris Johnson
Storm Amateur Staffer

Dbum · « **Reply #90 on:** August 26, 2008, 11:18:17 AM »

Caruso said something about the bowling alley when I bowled him..It might have been the approaches he didnt like, But in that case I hated the approaches as well..
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Darnell "DBum" Bell

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