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sheppy335

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PA State Tournament
« on: February 05, 2010, 08:56:25 AM »
About a month and a half away from starting. Who is going? When? what were the lanes like there? Let hear what you say!
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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2010, 08:33:59 PM »
My weekend was pretty good. No great, but I can't complain. 633 in singles, 678 in doubles and 630 something in team (all scratch-don't know about handicap) The rest of the guys that went with us didn't bowl for sh!t.

Hanover was a nice center. The bar was a big hit! The lanes were a little tight there. There was a definite out of bounds, about 7 to the gutter. The left side looked extremely tough because there weren't as many bowlers breaking down the shot. Swinging it just didn't work in the first block. For the second block the track area was hooking early so I jumped inside where the shot was and bowled good.

Lincolnway was a nice center as well. Older center, but clean. Wooded approaches and synthetic lanes. Not sure if they were overlays. This shot was totally different than Hanover. They ran the lanes about 20 minutes before we started. not sure if that had anything to do with it, by the backends were flying. The outside was not dry. Not as bad as Hanover, but the dryer backend probably helped. I saw alot of splits it the first game. I threw a ball with surface to control the breakpoint, and had a 258 out of the gate. Opened in game 2 in the 10th for a 206, and game 3 tried moving inside. My game went downhill from here.  Left a couple 2-8-10's and had my worst game of the weekend.
There was a guy a couple pairs from us that had 780 playing 4th arrow out of the gate.
If you have any specific questions let me know.

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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2010, 07:53:40 AM »
Sounds like you had a pretty decent weekend, thanks for the review. I'll be going out in about a month.

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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2010, 10:09:52 AM »
anymore reviews????

Im bowling this weekend  just looking to hear where some others played the lanes and faired out??
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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2010, 10:13:51 AM »
I'll be out there this weekend as well.  What are your squad times TJ?

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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2010, 10:33:08 AM »
team event 12, 4
singles and doubles 430
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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2010, 11:23:42 AM »
TJ... i haven't bowled yet but I bowl league at Hanover and was told that they put more on the out sides. This center is alway tight to start and with more on the outsides will mae it even more tight. I have heard that the backend are pretty flippy at Lincolnway for team. Good luck this weekend.
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motorbike

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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2010, 11:44:04 AM »
I agree with Baer. That's what we experienced.

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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2010, 11:51:57 AM »
TJ, I want to back up Adam's statement, I practiced after the squads were done at both places and I noticed that Lincolnway, which is using a borrowed lane machine, has not enough hold, even on the left side, you will need to play a little deeper and stay deep to catch any hold. If you try to swing it whats so ever, it will be early hook. At Hanover, with newer lane panels, the track isn't worn in as much, plus they are using 2 new IONS they bought from Bowlers Supply. The pattern is much tighter, but if you play more up the boards off the gutter, thats where the only friction I seen on neither the left side or right side. I used in practice a CELL with a 45x4x50 with weight hole on the VAL and played the ditched and have 700 plus for three games, I tired the 2 of my three Riots, those two were too weak, I going to try Riot #3 I had drilled last week when I practice there this Saturday. I used a Mars with a leverage drilling at Lincolnway and a Neptune label drilling, I did find some hold at about 16-18 board and used a Mutant with a 30x3 1/2x60 layout.
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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2010, 01:20:20 PM »
Anyone know the oiling schedule for this?  I can never remember..

Do they oil every team and every 2 S/D?

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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2010, 09:01:56 PM »
its usually every other for team and every other for singles and doubles...I think not 100% sure
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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2010, 07:38:06 AM »
Thanks for everyone contributing to the post great information. I am going May 22 and 23 for the tournament. I will let you know when i get back how i did.
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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2010, 07:47:13 AM »
Quick review here...

I am a medium - high speed guy (17-18mph per Hanover's machines), Medium to high rev tweener, high tracker and threw an Elite Black Label all 9 games..

2nd shift Team 7pm Saturday -- The lanes played fairly open to start, we had a few guys start out strong, but as the heads went away people get stubborn and don't get deep enough fast enough.  I jumped way left and was trying to keep a tight breakpoint by the 8th frame of the first game.  Went back 5, front 6, ring 10.  Don't be afraid to try to get the ball only to 13 or 14 at the breakpoint from the left ditch.  201 - 255 - 200 for me.  I just couldn't execute consistently and missed some spares.  $40 in brackets/high game $45 out.  

Fresh Singles -- Lanes started really tight, and I had a pretty terrible look to start.  Found something straight up 10 (maybe a small swing 12-10), but anything outside of that was dead to me and I didn't have a lot of hold.  Missed spares all set.  By the 2nd game they opened up a little and I kicked a bit further in.  I was still at 15 at the arrows, out to about 8 at the breakpoint and pretty much stayed there.  Carry was bad and spare shooting was worse.  5 single pin wiffs.  167-218-178.  $50 in brackets/high game $0 out.

Doubles -- Had a very similar look to the end of singles.  Lanes were a bit more open and I had a little tug room inside (still no push out though).  Stayed pretty much the same spot all three games (only small moves left).  End up around 17 at the arrows and 10 at the breakpoint.  Shot spares better but had no carry.  2 opens total 212-214-217.  $50 in brackets $135 out.  Got lucky with a couple of matchups and bad 3rd games from good bowlers..

Net $40 from brackets shooting 1860.  Not great but not all bad.  There are definitely some score to be shot out there if you can carry though.  They will be lower on a whole than last year for sure..

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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2010, 07:08:56 AM »
Any results lately? I will heading up in a week and a half.

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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2010, 08:58:55 PM »
Went out April 24-25. Why does the team event have to be in the smallest of the two houses? And why do bowlers insist in bringing the whole family to watch?
Sorry. Just a pet peeve of mine.
We bowled Team at 7PM Saturday night. Sticky approaches lead to not a very good read of the conditions for me initially. I'm right handed, and I started out swinging 10 to about 7. Kept going high, so I kept moving in. Could not keep an Encryption Code off the nose for a 162. Switched to a Magic Touch keeping it tight 14 to 11 and found hold and carry. Finished 242, 238. Had a cranker next to me swinging 19 to around 13 and shooting a 299. He deserved the perfecto...ringing 10. Late shift with no oil for the squad lead to very dry outsides. Gotta keep it tight inside.
Minor events at Hanover were at 4:30 PM on Sunday. Fresh oil. What a beautiful thing. Got to play with my Solaris Requiem. Started out swinging 8 to about 6 and opened with a 290. That'll get you through a couple brackets. Second game, carry went south. I could still hit the pocket, but left four 10-pins in a row.
Made a slight move right with the feet that worked for a couple frames, then jumped high. So inside we went gradually, watching ball reaction as the lanes transitioned. Nothing too drastic, but I had to adjust slightly every 4-5 frames to keep carrying. Ended the doubles swinging 11 to 8. Tighter was definitely better. Singles was 290/205/223-718. Doubles was 237/235/228-700.
I thought it was a fair shot, but you had to keep up with it. Carry on a tighter line was better than swinging it out a little too much. Lots of corner pins. Hanover is a really nice center. Wide open spaces.
I'm not a cranker by any stretch, but I get decent hand in the ball. Speed was about 16.5mph according to the shot tracker. All in all, a pretty decent showing for me. Hope this helps you guys so you can cut into my prize money. Good luck.

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Re: PA State Tournament
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2010, 07:24:31 AM »
Thanks for the recap Mr. Smith.
 Nice bowling too.