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Title: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 03:27:44 AM
Just thought i would let everyone in this forum and on this wonderful site know of the new shop online that is coming out......the new site at www.bowlersoasis.com will be done by the end of september and offer all the equipment a beginner all the way up to a pro will need, while not charging you an insane amount of money........The site is going to be run by 2 avid bowlers and all the equipment will be shipped out from a pro shop that has been in business for over 25 years and is very reputable.......Also, there will be columns on the site from various bowling writers and a forum for you the consumer and avid bowler to post your opinions of the balls and how you shot with them.........Don't forget to check out www.bowlersoasis.com and if anyone has anyquestions about the site for me before it comes up you can email me at rtbowlr300@yahoo.com......
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: Strider on September 15, 2004, 01:00:10 PM
My ESP tells me themezz will be posting soon...
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Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 06:27:39 PM
This site is very legit and is a solid pro shop here in rochester new york.  If anyone is concerned about purchasing from a new site that is very understandable and I can see why you would be aprehensive about it.  As for being about 8 years late i can't help that i was only 13 at the time and i was just starting to work in a pro shop then.  All i am here to do is offer a solid site with quality drilling from a 27 year veteran in the pro shop business.  There is pleny of room on the web for multiple online sites to run adn I am just offering to the community low prices and quick shipping and if they want to get a ball drilled it will be done by someone with experience.  This is not a fly by night type of operation...
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 06:52:42 PM
First off This is my third business that I am opening and am pretty well versed in business.  Being 21 does not make me or my site any worse of then anyone else out there.  I already have stated that i am just setting up the business and my partner who has been in the business for 27 years is going to run it.  I am a web designer and computer technician by trade and a bowler in my spare time so it only made sense to make a site.  If you don't think it is a good idea that is fine by me don't try to taint others view on the business when the site hasn't even launched yet.  As for the other sites that have been around, they had to start somewhere and sometime and go through rough times as well.  I can provide a solid service to people on the net who are looking for equipment and if they want resonable drilling by a local hall of famer then it will be done with quality and assurance from us that it is done the best around.  As for my mommy and daddy as you put it, i have a bank roll that can foot this site and i understand the concept of start capital and insurance and basically everything there is to know about running the site.  So at this point don't warn people about the site if they don't like the prices and quality that is another thing but it hasnt launched yet so mind your own business.
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 07:06:08 PM
Your absolutely right.....there cna't possibly be someone out there who is only 21 able to build a website and form a partnership with someone who has a pro shop.....you are dead on......maybe you shoudl do something besides trying to criticize what others are trying to do....Plus would you rather have a local pro shop owner running a site or someone who has a degree in business and is a certified web designer running the site with a partner who runs the pro shop.......hmmmm...it sounds like you have a lot of time on your hands to be stating that my site is not going to make it due to my age or that I have no money becuase i am young or that i missed my chance 8 years ago when it was getting going......i have already said that if you don't like it fine don't bother me or my site.....but for those out there who as objective to someone out there trying to provide a service to others at least tell this clown to get off of me.....Give it 3 weeks until the site launches and let everyone out there judge for themselves what type of site and quality we delivery to our customers.....
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: shimozukawa on September 15, 2004, 07:33:45 PM
What aspect of business do you have your degree in? Also, how badly did your first two ventures fail? I'm not asking these questions to spite or mock you. I am trying to see how much of an aptitude for success your current venture will have.

Someone once told me that he would never trust a business owner who hasn't had at least two good failures under their belt. I tend to agree.
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 07:34:12 PM
As i said before I have a partner who has a pro shop here in rochester ....there are four locations and they stock enough balls for us to do this....there is no drop shipping on anything it go through our hands before it goes to the customer......if you do not know what you are talking about mind your own business.....
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: Rock77 on September 15, 2004, 07:47:59 PM
I am not here to start conflict like someone else who replied, but rather shed light on the topic.

"Themezz", you need to shut up and stop being such an a** about a couple of new online shops. The more shops people have, the more variety they have to shop from.

You cant make a judgement about anyone or anything if you know nothing about them. Who cares if he is 21?? Maybe he does have enough money for his own business and to run things properly. It doesnt take much money to run an online business. I opened one when I was 19 and ran it successfully for 4 years until I lost interest.

Obviously people are going to shop at the reputable places, but it doesnt hurt to try elsewhere if a certain place doesnt have something in stock that you want. Now, I wasnt able to view the bowleroasis site as it is under construction, but bowling bonanza has good equipment at reasonbale prices. My only gripe is that the web design is a little less than spectaculor. Other than that, it looks ok!!

I say good luck to both of you and pay no attention to the obvious A**. He is one who knows nothing about what he criticizes and therefore should learn to shut his mouth!!
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Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 08:06:10 PM
once again you do not know what you are talking about.......he is a distributor and has 4 shops....that does not make him rich by any means but he has money and this is america........the dollar bills rules all so he would like to make some extra cash and at the same time sell goods to people at reasonable prices.....so once again mind your own business and get lost
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: solid9pin on September 15, 2004, 08:07:10 PM
Just what we need another bowling site to buy from..
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: Rock77 on September 15, 2004, 08:13:58 PM
quote:
Rock77-
If you made good money you would not have lost interest.
 


Hello, wake up and realize that money is not everything!! I lost interest merely because it took up too much of my time. I did make good money and because of that I live pretty comfortably now. But I have more time to do things that I want to do now. When I ran the online business, it was very time consuming. Especially when I was at an age that I just wanted to be anywhere but at home managing a business. Like I said, I did it for 4 successful years and am doing ok now because of it!!

As far as I am concerned, the more money you have the more difficult things get in life, thats why I choose to keep myself in the position I am in!!
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Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: hotwire13 on September 15, 2004, 08:14:04 PM
quote:

Rock77-
If you made good money you would not have lost interest.




oh...just like ricky williams and barry sanders stuck with football, right?

guess what everyone...this isnt socialism.  i have no idea who is running this new site, nor do i necessarily plan on checking it out once it launches.  but i do know that he has every right to advertise his new business on this site, like many others have, without all this BS criticism from people who think they know everything.  this isnt ms. cleo or dr. phil...if the site fails, then it fails...but i dont think any of us have the right to start giving the place bad reputations before they have a chance to prove themselves.  if people decide to stick with buddies or whatever they are comfortable with, thats fine.  but i dont think anyone else would like it if people started saying stuff about your own new site without any concrete proof of it having poor quality.  and as for the age, if a 21 year old can be a MLB general manager, then one can certainly run an online store.  if you dont agree, move to russia and see how great life is when everyone tells you exactly what to do.  give the new site a break.
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Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 08:20:32 PM
danesei,

I have a bachelors in business management and my other 2 businesses never failed....i have a successful computer repair shop here in rochester and i also have a landscaping business as well......i am currentyl seling my share of the landscaping business to my partner so i can committ more time into my computer business and bowlersoasis when i get it up and running.......
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 08:24:00 PM
themezz.....i i said he had a pro shop that has been in business for 27 years and i didnt know i had to go into detail about how many shops he had under the same business entity or if he was a distributor.....you asked the questions and i answered them for you.....this is not something iwas sitting there and said hey lets make a website....it has been through planning and research and just like every other business there are risks and it will take time to see if it is a success or failure....all i came to this site was offer up to people that another site was coming up.....i didnt not come here to get criticism from you and i could care a less about your opinions....
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 08:33:30 PM
he does already have a site......i am going through him for the equipment and my partner works for him over at bowl a roll now......
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 08:44:27 PM
thanks a lot.....i appreciatte that
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 11:24:47 PM
silverpunk,

The prices will be competitive with the other online sites and below what they are selling the balls for in your local shops....at this point the prices we are going off of might be about the same as any other site on the net but are shipping costs are going to be lower, we feel that the other sites are offering great services and shipping as we will, but we can afford to cut some of the shipping costs.....
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 11:25:50 PM
Also, i can take constuctive criticism on the site before it comes out and when it comes out but getting on here and posting and being a completea**hole is not appreciatted to anyone out there who is thinking about doing it or already has.....
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 11:30:57 PM
I did do my homework and some of the best marketing books and professionals say having a name similiar to an established business helps your persona.....it is not deceiving or comfusing to the customer but it helps you out before you even get going......As i have said all night long this was not thought about in 15 minutes and i decided to do it.....this was well thought out and has taken a lot of preparation to this point and will take a lot more to get everything finished.......themezz get a god damn life and act whatewver middle age it is.....i say tuck the kids into bed, kiss the over weighted wife goodnight and go have your case of genny light while you sit down to watch the beverly hillbilly reruns all night long.......i am sick of your crap so get a life.....Everyone else goodnight i have a job to get to in the morning...
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: bowlersoasis on September 15, 2004, 11:38:20 PM
see now I can reply again before i go off to bed......a true business man puts an a**hole in there place when it is time to be put in there place........a true business man does not take crap from anyone especially when they are insulting there business........and most of all a true business man is someone who keeps coming back and fighting for what it takes to succeed.......this is why every word you write must and will be dignified with a response until you flutter off into your own world......this is what the business world is all about and to succeed it must be known that i will do whatever it takes to make this site one of the top ones out there and any BS from means nothing to me.....
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: hotwire13 on September 16, 2004, 12:09:41 AM
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Is it not amazing how you can reel these kids in and see there true colors?

A professional business person would have not replied to any of my posts.

Enough said.


a businessman who doesnt reply to an a-hole is the one who ends up out of business  going by that, this site is going to do very well.  mezz, why dont you just give up being such an idiot and let the site try its best to do well.  its not your problem if they struggle, and its certainly not your problem if they boom.  either way, its really none of your business what they do, as all this thread appeared to be was a simple advertisement, which is perfectly legal as far as i know.  and guess what...because of all this, everyone is probably going to take a look at the site and its product menu, just for the heck of it because of all this stupid commotion you caused.  maybe theyll hire you as their advertising consultant.
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Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: solid9pin on September 16, 2004, 01:21:31 AM
Just another person to jump on the bandwagon
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: omegabowler on September 16, 2004, 02:30:14 AM
bowlersoasis,
 
 I know you have all that degrees and 2 business, yada yada. you have already failed to meet the first criteria of a developing business. Marketing.

You have posted an empty void of of an announcement and your audience has responded. use this feedback to create a comfort zone to dispel your future clients worries.

throwing out out a hey looks what's coming with out any framework or mission statement in place is not the best way for e-commerce to succeed.

there are many established sites on the web for bowling and all of them are sub par by e-commerce standards.

never post a web address with nothing there. you have given fragments of useful information here and there that could already be you introduction.

despite Mezz poor attitude there is much to be learned from him. There are many how fear e-commerce for many of the reason he has stated.

You have failed at the second criteria. salesmanship. learn the salesman skills if you are going to post. never confront an argument. direct the attention to the appropriate manner. getting into he said/he said arguments over trial things erodes the confidence of the consumer.

here is an off the cuff answer to some of the negative remarks.

I appreciate your concerns and these will be address on our web site. a complete company profile will be available to the consumer. Our service will be competitive and fair and above customer satisfaction is the top priority.



arguing about age and other business you have run is not an issue to even be discussed until there is a failure to meet demand, delivery or satisfaction.


just some advice. if you need any real world help on an ecommerce site. PM me and I will set you up with a friend of mine who has been doing e-comm for years.


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Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: solid9pin on September 16, 2004, 04:55:09 PM
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see now I can reply again before i go off to bed......a true business man puts an a**hole in there place when it is time to be put in there place........a true business man does not take crap from anyone especially when they are insulting there business........and most of all a true business man is someone who keeps coming back and fighting for what it takes to succeed.......this is why every word you write must and will be dignified with a response until you flutter off into your own world......this is what the business world is all about and to succeed it must be known that i will do whatever it takes to make this site one of the top ones out there and any BS from means nothing to me.....


Big mistake calling someone an a**hole when you are trying to
promote your business, No matter if it is in vain, fun or what.
I true business man would be able to take any criticism no matter
if it is good or bad. Themez is entitled to his own opinion and
should be able to express his own opinion. You should be able to
take any opinion. You just showed how much of a ID10T you are.



Edited on 9/16/2004 4:53 PM
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: solid9pin on September 16, 2004, 04:57:32 PM
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There are four locations and they stock enough balls for us to do this....there is no drop shipping on anything it go through our hands before it goes to the customer.



Yeah right! Tell that to someone who will believe that!
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: MonkeyBoy on September 20, 2004, 11:00:49 AM
themezz, in your past did you try to run a pro shop, real or online, and fail... seems like you take offence and attack whomever tries to do so.

Be honest Now !
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Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: solid9pin on September 20, 2004, 11:31:38 AM
quote:
themezz, in your past did you try to run a pro shop, real or online, and fail... seems like you take offence and attack whomever tries to do so.

Be honest Now !
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"Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get."  
- H. J. Simpson




Jesus people leave themez alone, He is allowed to express his opinion and whatever he wants as you guys do. I agree with him on this and this is just
another wanna be online seller jumping on the bandwagon.
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: Leftyhi-trak on September 21, 2004, 12:59:14 PM
The problem with Mezz is he's a total j*** off to people. I have appreciated his ability to sniff out frauds like Beach Bowl, etc., but dang give people a break. Being closed minded helps no one and free trade is part of what America is all about. If this guy is not competitive his business will die out but please let him dictate the business life.

Oasis,

As a fellow NY'er even though I'm on the eastern side I appreciate you letting us know of your site. I do some tourneys out your way and have  dealt with a few shops related to your partner. I will be very interested as our area sends many to the Lilac tournament.Good Luck

As for the rest of you na-sayers, please take you medication or relax.
Title: Re: COMING SOON Bowlersoasis.com !!!
Post by: onlybowling on September 28, 2004, 12:18:25 PM
Every new business has obsticles and a learning curve.  You can find a way to make your dreams real.  I am looking forward to seeing you enjoy a good business, that will help all of us.
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