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brinen28

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Why not go to your local pro shop
« on: September 15, 2005, 12:45:07 PM »
Everyone always talks about buying bowling equipment online.  Well, did it ever occur to anyone about being loyal to your local pro shop that actually drills your equipment.  I mean, yes, online is cheaper.  But after you pay for shipping (usually around 20.00) and drilling (anywhere from 50.00 - 60.00 for basic drilling), are you really saving that much money.  

Besides that, you can actually talk to someone who can help you select the right ball, and you will get a good ball with good specs.  I have heard from a few people that they got an x out or blem, when they thought they were buying 1st quality.  And I have heard from others about iffy specs.
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brinen28

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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2005, 01:28:31 PM »
no, if you think about it... the prices really havnt gone up that much, consiering what everything else in the world has gone up... the highest priced ball in the shop i go to is 220  (exception of EPX)   its not that the pro shops have gone up, but those online have just introduced a new market price
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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2005, 01:30:25 PM »
lol. brinen your not gonna win this battle. Yeah you can go into the pro shop for 1 ball but I can think of alot more stuff I would be willing to pay 250 for. No way im paying for a bowling ball due to I can get the same customer service from rays pro shop that I can in my own alley.
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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2005, 01:39:57 PM »
doug, I can assure you that if there was a single proshop that I knew that did that, I would not hesitate to buy a ball in house. Fact of the matter is, I'm paying $220 for every high end ball from every shop in the area with no benefits unless I am one of the "in" crowd.
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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2005, 01:53:39 PM »
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no, if you think about it... the prices really havnt gone up that much, consiering what everything else in the world has gone up... the highest priced ball in the shop i go to is 220  (exception of EPX)   its not that the pro shops have gone up, but those online have just introduced a new market price


All said and done, it would still cost cheaper getting a ball on line. I haven't bought on line before, but just look at the prices. I'm the kind of person who can't wait, that's the only reason I would still go to my pro shop. Myself I've bought at least 6 balls from him, but I still think I'm getting ripped off when my friend could buy 8 balls with the kind of money I'm giving to the shop. I understand that it's a buisness, but some shop abuse the customers loyality. Giving everyday prices to a regular, doesn't really strengthen any bond neither.
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brinen28

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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2005, 02:01:25 PM »
why would a pro shop charge 10 dollars over what he paid for a ball... or what he paid... thta is what online sellers do... pro shops cannot make a living off of 10 bucks an item....
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Doug Sterner

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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2005, 04:09:07 PM »
We have been through this one over and over again...physical pro shops have a ton more overhead than online shops.

Most online shops have a supplier they work with drop ship the balls for them so they don't even have to stock or get the ball shipped in. Many times the supplier will do that for teh pro shop just to help increase their sales volumes. I know of at least 1 MAJOR Internet player that does this.

The pro shop that is attached to my one supplier charges $100 plus drilling, inserts and slug for a power groove...now talk about a rip off! $225 plus drilling on the high end Track balls is also the norm.

There is a local shop that charges that much here but I know for a fact that he is located in a 48 lane center with lots of traffic so he gets his share of ball sales but the lease he has with the owner of the building reads as such "The operator of the pro shop shall pay a flat fee of $500 per month plus 30% of all other sales tendered through the shop. All sales will be invoiced from the shop and tendered the bowling center register, not by the shop individually."

We could go on and on but we all know the answer....
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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2005, 10:27:23 PM »
Guys, I am not going to put the name out of the shop/supplier I am talking about so please stop messaging me and asking.

It is true that Internet shops are the way of the future but they are making it all but impossible for the home town shops to make any money.

It's going to boil down to a classic example of the big guys win and the little guys lose. There are plenty of shops who buy in with a supplier on the initial order of a ball or the intro order for shoes to help the supplier get a lower price and that lower price gets passed along to the shop. Unless you are a shop who can do this, you will more than likely drift off into extinction.

Just my opipnion.
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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2005, 11:10:38 PM »
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Customer service does not mean much to a lot of people anymore...it seems that price drives the majority now....
 


The quality and accuracy of drilling is the most important to me. The price is secondary.

Some have mentioned that the pro shops should charge more for a ball bought elsewhere. This worked for one Pro Shop driller that was extremely accurate and knowledgeable that I went to 5 years ago before he died of heart failure. His prices were.....

Drilling for balls bought here.........$40
Drilling for balls bought elsewhere....$70  

It worked.

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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2005, 11:30:15 PM »
the reason i went online is the bvp line balls which can eb bought for 85 online at one shop i went to one of few in area wanted 135 dollars for the ball plus 30 to drill 10 for grips and 15 for slug  so its 190 where  i got it for 90 14 to ship 10 for slug and i usually drill my own but if i don't it cost 20 so its  134 drilled compared to 190 drilled
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brinen28

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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2005, 02:26:17 PM »
well, calculate teh price of the ball you bought online, add shipping, add 70 and hten you get the price that is advertised in the pro shop... its works backwards
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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2005, 02:39:29 PM »
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$70 to drill a Bowling Ball? That is unreal. What a rip off.  


Only for balls bought elsewhere.

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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2005, 02:40:45 PM »
I understand the pros and cons about price difference between
online and proshops. One thought that not many may take into
account is what happens when and if all the local proshops close up?
Who will drill your new ball if the online site does not offer
the service? What about repair work, plugging new inserts, surface
adjustment, i could go on and on but you get the point. I am just
a bowler and do not own a proshop but you have to admit everyone
has a need for a good proshop and the valuable services offer by them.

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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2005, 02:42:11 PM »
I agree.. I would never and I repeat never pay $70 to have someone drill a bowling ball.. That is absolute insanity..

Regardless what people think, you can save ALOT of money buying the ball online and having it drilled at a reasonbly priced pro shop. I have drilled up 50+ used and NIB balls the past 18 months and could have never done that buying all the balls at a pro shop. I of course have given my pro shop guy alot of money for drilling the NIB balls and plugging and redrilling the used ones. I also send him alot of business. He is great and does not mind drilling internet balls and does it for $35 bucks for anyone walking in the shop. He also always gives great customer service regardless. I of course get better deals because I have so many drilled. Might I add that he is doing VERY well in his shop and making more money now than he ever has..

The Pro shop guy out there raping people by charging $70 to drill a blank ball will be out looking for another job if they don't change their attitude on not wanting to drill internet balls at a fair price..

The bottom line is this.. The internet is not going away anytime soon and people are always looking at saving a few bucks here and their whenever they can..


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brinen28

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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2005, 02:43:04 PM »
and how many free standing pro shops do you think are going to be left when "online is the future of bowling" as quoted by somone else on a differnt post..
bowlers will never be happy with pro shop prices, due to teh fact they are spoiled by online sellers...
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brinen28

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Re: Why not go to your local pro shop
« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2005, 02:45:59 PM »
so when you walk into a pro shop, and see 60/70 bucks to drill a blank ball, does that make you want to go to the internet more, make you not want to buy a ball online, or just find a new shop (even though this is the shop you have been going to for years)
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