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Bang or WC vs. ONE
« on: March 29, 2006, 05:37:29 AM »
I have recently got my first Legends ball the New Standard 2, not all the hook I was looking for, but I love it none the less. Ok so I am looking for the most hook possible planning on having this ball drilled Stacked Lev. But am stuck between the Big Bang, World Class, and Ebonite's The ONE. Has anybody in here thrown the ONE and either of the other two. I am looking for an honest comparison. I am a stroker and am just looking for something as STRONG as possible.
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Re: Bang or WC vs. ONE
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2006, 01:50:05 PM »
I have the Big Bang drilled stacked leverage.  It hooks, and matches up with my game a lot better than THE ONE, but I think THE ONE hooks more.  From what I've seen around here anyways.  The Big Bang hits extremely hard and does hook a lot, but it's also very controlable.

I haven't had luck with ANY high end Reactive stuff besides the Ultimate Inferno, and even that I had to polish to fit my game.
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Re: Bang or WC vs. ONE
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2006, 02:03:11 PM »
The Big Bang, the World Class and the One are designed and meant cover very different oil patterns. They are not comparable UNLESS you intend to sand the One to 2000 or 1000 grit. The Big One would be a better comparison to the 2 Legends balls.

I must admit to being partial to the Legends balls. They will give equal performance but last much longer and easier as their performance is not linked to rapid absorption of oil but to premium quality resins. They also don't seem to need asymmetric cores and their accompanying drill complexities to save their energy and hook a lot in the backend. Both the Big Bang and the World Class seem to be designed to handle a good amount of oil without needing to hook early.

This is not to say that the Big One (and The One) is not a great ball. It is, from all I have seen, read and heard. I'm just inclined to go with what for me are a proven set of balls. Due to their very high absorption rates the One family need a LOT of high maintenance.
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Re: Bang or WC vs. ONE
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2006, 02:41:49 PM »
I'd have to agree with Charlest about the Big One being a better ball to compare oob.  OOb, the one will not match up very well to the Big Bang or the World Class, with the same surface prep still expect the One to be slightly weaker.  The World Class and (I'm not positive with the Big Bang) the Big Bang both utalize particle coverstocks and thus I would expect both to handle oil a bit better and be weaker on the backend than the One.  The Big One on the other hand will be as strong and probably a few boards stronger oob than either the WC or the BB.  It will probably also save a bit more energy for the backend.  I would personally go with the Big One, it is very strong and versitile and can be drilled to do pretty much whatever due to the asymetrical core.
  I must object to the statement that the Ones need very high maintenance.  I have had my One for quite a long time and when I first purchased it I didn't clean it for about 45 games.  I now clean my stuff but still it has well over 100 games and still is very clean and strong.
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Re: Bang or WC vs. ONE
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2006, 02:54:45 PM »
Balls Deep,

BTM's reviews of the Big Bang and the World Class indicate quite a nig backend and more overall hook for the Legends over the Big One in their testing.I haven't gotten my World Class so I can't compare it yet.

Supposedly both have more hook and more backend than my Big Kahuna and my Yeah Baby. If that's true, I can hardly believe it.

Regarding maintenance of the Ones, maybe you kept yours with the polish which will retard oil absorption and maybe again you or your ball is the exception. I've already seen too many Ones lose some to a lot of their reaction over the course of 30-50 games. Maybe sanding makes absorption faster and used on more oil; so there's more exposure to more oil. Not sure.

I have hundereds of games on several of my Legends and Lanemasters balls and have yet to lose any reaction at all. In fact there's hardly a track in any of them which is downright spooky.
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Re: Bang or WC vs. ONE
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2006, 03:44:56 PM »
Thank you all for your replies, this has been nagging me ever since I had a guy basically trash my balls after league the other night. Was a bad night anyway, lost my point to a hack by 5 pins, just a bit upset at that point anyway. So I started thinking about the one or big one, only one guy has the one in my league and nobody has the big one. But you all reminded me of the reasons I bought Legends in the first place.

  1. Longevity (Bowled 50+ games and other than belt marks(which come off easily  and scuffing reacts like new)

  2. Particle (Just plows through the oil and comes screaming back at the end)

  3. Surface (No special polish or high luster finish just a 800grit sheen, have a hard time finding 4000grit Abrolon pads around here)

  4. Kit  (What ball comes with a nice little kit to change it's surface, huh?)

I'm gonna get the BIG BANG for my next ball, be awhile but I think that is the way to go. Gonna get my Dynothane Thing Lives redrilled stronger to compensate in the mean time.

Might also mention that I have had release and timing issues lately and just been slightly off and I think I have just gotten down on my equipment due to that lack of confidence.

Edited on 3/29/2006 4:56 PM
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Re: Bang or WC vs. ONE
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2006, 06:59:10 PM »
I don't know too much about the Big Bang and the World Class, and due to the new technology I can't offer a great impression of both.  I had the New Standard and it was ok, but I ended up selling it and used that money to purchase a Total Shock and Awe.  I had the NS drilled with a 5"pin to pap, 3" above mid, cg kicked with an x hole in the thumb quadrant.  The TS&A was also drilled with a 5" pin to pap, 4" above mid, mb 6" from pap with no x hole.  The TS&A was quite a bit more angular at the breakpoint and had alot more midlane roll.  The strong asymetric core really seemed to tip the ball over where the NS just didn't finish as well.  This has been my experience with many other balls, asymetric stuff just tends to bite more, giving many solid coverstocks the snap that was previously reserved only for pearls.  
   Such is why I figured that the Big One would have more backend than the WC or the BB.  I also figured more overall hook because the GB 11.2 is considered by many to be the strongest cover ever made and the asymetric core is among the strongest on the market.  Drilled to the most dynamic core position w/same surface prep, I will still, despite what BTM says, put my money on the Big One to outhook either the WC or the BB.
   The longevity of legends coverstocks is very good, the NS I sold is still being used, and many people I've talked to have put a ton of games on their Legends/Lanemasters stuff.  I will contend that the One series also has excellent longevity.  I have yet to see any one that loses a great deal of its reaction and there have been upwards of 75 of em' punched out of the local pro shop.  The oob surface may very well have something to do with this, but I have taken mine down to 1000 for about 25 games and it still has a great reaction.
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