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Equipment Boards => Other => Topic started by: tekneek on June 10, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
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I've been given the task of teasing the audience by the "Master Teaser"(Ryan)
the information at this time is limited, basically he's giving me enough rope to hang myself with. The pics you are seeing are the colors of the coming releases, the core numbers are medium rg with a medium rg diff,and a med inter. diff no numbers to be released at this time, as this could change before they actually go into production. The proposed release date is still unavailable hoping for mid July, due to plant production scheduling. As you know there are several other balls coming out being made in S.A. this will effect the timing of all releases, enouf said here are the pics!!!!!
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/brinkley2223/EpicenterWeb342x340.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/brinkley2223/desperadoWeb342x340.jpg
Pre-orders will be taken as soon as I have a price structure from the "Master Teaser"
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Steve
Leading Edge Pro Shop
steve@leadingedgeproshop.net
512-755-2947
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Leading-Edge-Pro-Shop__W0QQ_armrsZ1
Edited on 6/21/2009 10:14 AM
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Took a vew videos while bowling tonight... struck 16 out of my first 19 shots. Here are a few of them!
The condition was "medium" is best I could describe.. I threw a few shots with the Solaris during practice and a few didn't quite get back... we had no opposition tonight so fancied throwing a few of our test balls!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f1FVh7ogY
Ryan
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Rev, I will get a video of the Desperado up asap, but as this is designed specifically for shorter patterns we want to make a video on this condition to show how it performs in context!
Cheers
Ryan
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So is the Epicenter a "version" of the Awakening?
I say that because the Awakening was a very medium pearl resin ball also.
The Epicenter is a very good looking ball.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Edited on 6/10/2009 6:32 PM
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Charlest,
Not at all... the Epicenter core is BRAND NEW, designed by SEISMIC, and cannot or has not been used by any other company. The Coverstock is a strong pearl, a sligtly modified version of the Solaris cover. Overall strength is a little more than the original Solaris but with a different roll and shape.
The core has "medium" numbers because we believe that length and reaction shape can be dictated by core numbers rather than just cover strength. The medium differential allows the ball to get down the lane easy without loosing much energy before the strong pearl cover grips the back end.
Hope that helps!
Ryan
Edited on 6/10/2009 6:49 PM
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I would like to try some Seismic stuff but I really dont know where to put one in the line up right now! My AZO stuff kinda covers everything right now. Maybe an Experiment ball sometime in the near future.
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''If their is a life after death,
then their is no death,
and if their is no death,
we do not live''
Progressive Metal Band
EVERGREY
MainzerPower
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Give them a try Minzer... You wont be disappointed

Ryan
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Charlest,
Not at all... the Epicenter core is BRAND NEW, designed by SEISMIC, and cannot or has not been used by any other company. The Coverstock is a strong pearl, a sligtly modified version of the Solaris cover.
Ah! That should make it different.
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Overall strength is a little more than the original Solaris but with a different roll and shape.
Looking forward to seeing just what that core shape is.
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The core has "medium" numbers because we believe that length and reaction shape can be dictated by core numbers rather than just cover strength. The medium differential allows the ball to get down the lane easy without loosing much energy before the strong pearl cover grips the back end.
Hope that helps!
Ryan
Yes, it does. Thank you.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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I really looking foward to these releases! I just punched a Solaris a few weeks back and can't put in down! Drilled it up 55 X 4" X 30 with double thumb weight hole. Ball rolls better than ever expected....
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Give them a try Minzer... You wont be disappointed 
Ryan
Mainzer
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''If their is a life after death,
then their is no death,
and if their is no death,
we do not live''
Progressive Metal Band
EVERGREY
MainzerPower
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OOps sorry, I knew it was Mainzer but was just typing too quick

Ryan
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No prob
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''If their is a life after death,
then their is no death,
and if their is no death,
we do not live''
Progressive Metal Band
EVERGREY
MainzerPower
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hows that desperado video coming,(wink wink)..lol.. do we have any specs numbers or pictures of the weight blocks yet??
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We've been working on and finalising some video footage that will be shown at our booth during Bowl Expo, including the Desperado...I'm sure we'll get this footage uploaded once we return from Las Vegas.
The Desperado is still under our testing stage, so we will be finalising figures shortly. I've been testing this ball on some of our drier league conditions and on shots to the outside boards of the lane on those short tournament patterns. Carry from this ball has been nothing less than anything you would come to expect of a top line reactive.
Images of our new Insignia core will also be appearing at Bowl Expo, so a reminder to all Seismic followers to call by our booth and see all the new releases! If you can't be at Bowl Expo, don't worry we'll be getting all information out to everyone as soon as we can.
Grant
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I've been waiting a very long time for companies to finally come out with a good urethane ball! now it seems after an eternity it's finally starting up.my bowling nemesis has always been dryer shots and dry lane resin bowling balls,the covers are to strong and cores are to weak.my favorite cores have always been asymmetric,don't know why since I have a heavy hand but in general I've always bowled good with asymmetric stuff.now to find out your Desperado is a urethane/asymmetric core ball sounds like a GOD SEND to me,count me in!
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The harder I try the harder they fall
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Drrev, yes the Desperado has the Insignia core in it!
sixpack - we have heard the same thing for years, and said the same ourselves, so now that we have an opportunity to release what we feel a lot of bowlers really need, we have jumped at it! 
Ryan
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Just uploaded a few images of our brand new Insignia core, links below for the first look!
http://www.seismicbowling.com/img/insigniaCore1.jpg
http://www.seismicbowling.com/img/insigniaCore2.jpg
Grant
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different, looks good.. what will be the difference with the flip plate towards the top/closer to the pin rather then near the bottom of the weight block..
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well I'm stoked! my B day is in late July and I've told the wife what I want

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The harder I try the harder they fall
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still waiting on that desperado video, please..
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im ready to make a preorder on the epicenter
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i think this core has alot of similarities of the core use in the Roto grip epic line, especially this Epic Quest.
Looks awesome, might as well tag this one on my list to buy, my Solaris is still my go to ball anytime.
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What is sandbagging???
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Had promised the video that was on display during Bowl Expo and we've now uploaded it on our return. The video features the Solaris Requiem on a heavy tournament pattern, Epicenter on medium league pattern, and Desperado on a shorter/drier pattern. There are also a few shots at the end of the original Solaris, and a few other projects in the pipeline!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIlHoxqmoU&feature=channel_page
Great to meet all of those who called by our booth during Expo for a first hand look at all our releases. As Ryan as said we are working on perfecting the Desperado before production, to make sure it's THE ball that you're waiting for. With the interest we are doing our best to bring the scheduling of the Desperado forward and we'll have more details available over the coming weeks!
Grant
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Every one of those balls (other than the Desperado) look like they hook a ton, but also look like really great pieces. Keep up the good work!
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- Brian
http://BeansProShop.com
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i want to know what that bright orange/yellow thing going down the lane? happy buddies is going to be carrying your stuff now i got to try a ball
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formerly known as absoluteinferno76
buddies pro shop best proshop in the industry! chris and the guys are spot on with customer service. the best deals on the net.
getting new piece this july of 09. keep you posted Ok looks like its coming down to the following three: lunatic,freeze,lanebreaker
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i want to know what that bright orange/yellow thing going down the lane? happy buddies is going to be carrying your stuff now i got to try a ball
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formerly known as absoluteinferno76
buddies pro shop best proshop in the industry! chris and the guys are spot on with customer service. the best deals on the net.
getting new piece this july of 09. keep you posted Ok looks like its coming down to the following three: lunatic,freeze,lanebreaker
I was thinking the same thing on that orange ball going down the lane, it had ALOT of recovery. Must be something your testing, correct? What ever it was it looked good.
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DON'T TEMPT THE BOWLING GODS
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Had promised the video that was on display during Bowl Expo and we've now uploaded it on our return. The video features the Solaris Requiem on a heavy tournament pattern, Epicenter on medium league pattern, and Desperado on a shorter/drier pattern. There are also a few shots at the end of the original Solaris, and a few other projects in the pipeline!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIlHoxqmoU&feature=channel_page
Great to meet all of those who called by our booth during Expo for a first hand look at all our releases. As Ryan as said we are working on perfecting the Desperado before production, to make sure it's THE ball that you're waiting for. With the interest we are doing our best to bring the scheduling of the Desperado forward and we'll have more details available over the coming weeks!
Grant
what ball was used in the very last shot in this clip?
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The harder I try the harder they fall
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From memory, the last ball on that clip was the original solaris... but if its the one that gets back a lot, it was at the end of the night! haha

Yes the orange ball is one we have been testing.. the videos shows the roll of the balls well, but they are tested on a few different conditions so to be honest its hard to make a direct comparison between the balls. For example, the reaction from the Epicenter will be about as strong as the yellow ball you seee tearing off the gutter!
the video quality on that video isnt great (was compressed alot for the expo display screen) so I will upload some bettershorter clips soon.
Cheers
Ryan
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The Epicenter looks very good. Would like to see a side by side comparison with the Solaris. Is it supposed to be a step down from the Solaris?
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I WILL MAKING THE PURCHASE OF THE EPICENTER IN A FEW WEEKS AT THE SAME TIME OF ORDERING MY GEMSTONE. CANT WAIT FOR THE DESPERADO EITHER ITS GONNNA DUE MY GAME JUSTICE THIS WINTER WHEN THE LANES GET BURNT UP EVERY WEEK. AND THAT BRIGHT ORANGE BALL WAS A BEAST CANT WAIT FOR THAT EITHER. IM READY FOR SOME SEISMIC APPAREL TOO OR ATLEAST A PATCH I CAN PUT ON MY SHIRT. EVERYONE KEEPS ASKING ME ABOUT YOU GUYS. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. GOD IS LOVE. PEACE.
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Austin Burris
accountsofabowlingaddict.blogspot.com
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Every one of those balls (other than the Desperado) look like they hook a ton, but also look like really great pieces. Keep up the good work!
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- Brian
http://BeansProShop.com
I think it is great that the Urethane doesn't hook much actually. Who cares how much everything hooks? every ball hooks a ton these days anyway.
URETHANE BABY!
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''If their is a life after death,
then their is no death,
and if their is no death,
we do not live''
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MainzerPower
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video?? anytime soon guys?? would really like too see this ball in action before I commit to storm and a couple naturals.. please hurry..lol..
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im so excited for both of these balls. what makes me so excited about the desperado is that it still contains the insignia core and they just wrap a urethane coverstock around it. while the natural contains that lightbulb, traditional urethane core. im very pleased that buddiesproshop is now carrying seismic too. they are who i buy from most of the time. and i very helpful. and we might get a video or two out of it too. NOW ALL WE NEED IS APPAREL AND THAT ORANGE YELLOW BALL IN THE VIDEO FROM EXPO
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Austin Burris
accountsofabowlingaddict.blogspot.com
Edited on 7/3/2009 10:17 AM
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Some more video footage for you of the Desperado. This was filmed towards the end of a practice session, lane pattern was of a drier league shot 39ft in length. The video quality isn't the best but we'll be bringing you more videos nearer to the release dates of each ball.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMMv5-x0O4k
Grant
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Thanks for the new Desperado vid. I was not that impressed with the glance in first one. This one gives me a better perception of what the ball has to offer. I like what i saw a lot more.
arc7..........
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Very impressive, that's a look everyone can use in their bag.
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i would have loved to see ryan in the vid just to see the reaction of the ball with a bowler with a higher rev rate but great vid and must buy for me
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Austin Burris
accountsofabowlingaddict.blogspot.com
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i would have loved to see ryan in the vid just to see the reaction of the ball with a bowler with a higher rev rate but great vid and must buy for me
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Austin Burris
accountsofabowlingaddict.blogspot.com
same here but the ball looks great.
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The harder I try the harder they fall
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In the first video...what finish was the cover on the Requiem? It looked possibly 4000 Abralon or possibly polished?
Outstanding video of the Desperado...I'll be picking one up for sure. Please, what was the layout and cover of the ball in the 2nd video. Loved the look he was getting on the lane.
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Scott Siegel
http://rc-driver@comcast.net
http://www.nationalbowlingstore.com/
Edited on 7/8/2009 10:49 AM
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modified insignia core on the desperado ??? http://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/7013/Seismic_Desperado_Bowling_Ball.htm
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The harder I try the harder they fall
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Just getting a chance to reply to a few of these now (as I sit outside my hotel in italy in the middle of a thunder storm!)...
The surface on the requiems were I believe 1000 no abralon on one, and 4000 Abralone on the other. The 4000 gives it a bit more length and increases the back end big time...
The finish on that Desperado I believe is about 4000 abralon, and is layed out around a 4.5-5" pin with a 60 degree mass bias...
And yes, we have used the brand new Insignia core in the Desperado to give premium roll in a urethane shell, but we wont be putting a premium price on it!!
Cheers
Ryan
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so..any real release dates on these two yet?
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The harder I try the harder they fall
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Just getting a chance to reply to a few of these now (as I sit outside my hotel in italy in the middle of a thunder storm!)...
The surface on the requiems were I believe 1000 no abralon on one, and 4000 Abralone on the other. The 4000 gives it a bit more length and increases the back end big time...
The finish on that Desperado I believe is about 4000 abralon, and is layed out around a 4.5-5" pin with a 60 degree mass bias...
And yes, we have used the brand new Insignia core in the Desperado to give premium roll in a urethane shell, but we wont be putting a premium price on it!!
Cheers
Ryan
Thanks Ryan!
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Scott Siegel
http://rc-driver@comcast.net
http://www.nationalbowlingstore.com/
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ready for the epicenter more and more everyday now
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Austin Burris
accountsofabowlingaddict.blogspot.com
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not a word for 2 weeks now.I like to play with a new ball before league starts up in about 6 weeks.
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The harder I try the harder they fall
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Only about a week to go!
The first batch of ball are ready and should be shipping in about 1 week....
Cheers
Ryan
PS just received my Solaris 299 award from usbc today
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We have been tweaking the cover a little in the run up to putting it into full production, changing the chemical makup a little from standard urethane to illiminate the early friction it would otherwise have.
The Desperado has been designed for shorter patterns rather than drier patterns, however the changes we are making to the coverstock will mean it is THE ball for all shorter and drier conditions...
Ryan
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hey ryan did you guys ever get those patches out there available for purchase? cant believe they first batch of epicenter is already ready i cant order til september since i will signing a new lease for off campus housing next month
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Austin Burris
accountsofabowlingaddict.blogspot.com
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Guys just to let you know the Epicenters are now being shipped to proshops!
Ryan
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what about the desperado? do you have a time line or is it still being tweaked?
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The harder I try the harder they fall
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Still looking at around end of September sixpack..
Ryan
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Still looking at around end of September sixpack..
Ryan
Bummer! looks like it might be an early Christmas present for myself then.
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The harder I try the harder they fall
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I will more then likely be making videos of every seismic ball and the layouts I use for competition in the near future. Stay posted.
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Lindenwood University
Junior Team USA 2008
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Took a vew videos while bowling tonight... struck 16 out of my first 19 shots. Here are a few of them!
The condition was "medium" is best I could describe.. I threw a few shots with the Solaris during practice and a few didn't quite get back... we had no opposition tonight so fancied throwing a few of our test balls!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f1FVh7ogY
Ryan
That is one snappy white belt there, Dude. I have GOT to get me one of them! Then I, too, will be stylin'!
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Its all about the white belt man

Ryan
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has anyone received and thrown their epicenter as of yet? I am interested to hear people's opinions of the ball
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Austin Burris
accountsofabowlingaddict.blogspot.com
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I finally drilled mine, hoping to shake loose tonight to go roll a few games with it.
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Steve
Leading Edge Pro Shop
steve@leadingedgeproshop.net
512-755-2947
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Leading-Edge-Pro-Shop__W0QQ_armrsZ1
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what did u think after bowling the other night?
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Austin Burris
accountsofabowlingaddict.blogspot.com
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strong pearl, drilled similar to the Solaris I had. has more length than the Solaris with a strong hook on the back. Ball was very stable rolling, never had a squirt do to any transition, ball continued to move without fail through the entire night, just a heads up guys, the ball is better looking than the stock pics that have been posted, the dark blue the pics show is actually a med to dark purple, looks far better in person than the pic indicate !!! Only have 3 games on it will do it again this week to get a better read.
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Steve
Leading Edge Pro Shop
steve@leadingedgeproshop.net
512-755-2947
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Leading-Edge-Pro-Shop__W0QQ_armrsZ1
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I agree on Tekneek's evaluation of the ball.
Strong pearl with much more angle then the solaris.
I will put up a video and pic as soon as possible for you guys.
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Lindenwood University
Seismic Amateur Staff
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I want my DESPERADO...!! STOMP STOMP STOMP!!! please & thank qyous with a cherry ontop.. any date picked out yet.. Iam really trying to hold off from buying a storm natural... help me out here..lol..
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I love your guys patience!
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d70/wendyms/yo003.jpg
This is actual ball and the layout I used for my first one. I am drilling 3 more tomorrow. If you guys care at all about the layouts I use on all of them send me a pm and I will take pics of all of them.
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Lindenwood University
Seismic Amateur Staff